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Jazz's defense

royzzz

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How is Jazz's defensive philosophy, approach or whatever you call it?

Ok don't laugh, not too hard at least, but I am playing NBA2k and let's just say the game somehow gets team's offensive plays and defensive sets. And the Jazz just suck against athletic teams like OKC and 3-pt shooting teams like Spurs.

Now I fired Corbin and hired Vogel and somehow defense became ok. Not great but good. So there must be something wrong with the current, or should we say Corbin's, defensive approach.

Cue: Laugh out loud.
While I duck for cover.
 
It will always be average, at best, if Jefferson is getting 30+ minutes.

It's not so bad when he's out there with Favors.. but when he plays a lot of minutes next to Millsap it really hurts the team defensively. If only Jefferson could defend the pick and roll..
 
I understand players are a factor but more than the players, how do you perceive the defensive sets?
The way I see it, packing the middle, leaving snipers, etc. thus opposing team capitalizes on these and sets 3pt shooters around.
 
I understand players are a factor but more than the players, how do you perceive the defensive sets?
The way I see it, packing the middle, leaving snipers, etc. thus opposing team capitalizes on these and sets 3pt shooters around.
The defense sucked under Sloan the last several seasons.
Last season was a waste in terms of installing anything offensively or defensively. Barely had a training camp and there were few practice days. Most days "off" during the season were actually travel days.

The one major change Ty tried to install was having players forced baseline instead of funneling them to the middle. Despite having non-physical bigs, and the rule changes preventing any real contact, Sloan still set the defense like he had an Eaton or Ostertag inside. I saw some early success but a major change like that requires regular focus, and there just weren't may practice sessions once the season began. And yes, there definitely has to be a change in terms of guarding shooters. Sloan was still living in the early '80's when the 3 was a low-percentage shot, not the weapon it is in today's game.

It also comes down to personnel. Jefferson, Millsap and Harris weren't exactly known for their defense. Raja once was, but he's clearly lost at least 2 steps. CJ off the bench? Um, no. Our best defensive players were a rookie and a soph (Kanter, Favors). Expect them to get better. Expect both the Williams to play solid "D." Corbin has already said there will be changes made to the P&R defense. I think another major change might be players just switching off. That's one of Marvin's strengths. When you have guys who are 4/5's and interchangeable wings, you can do that. Mo is small, but he's a fighter (e.g. the clip of him going toe-to-toe with Hayward).

Lastly, I think having more continuity on the court will help. Ty was trying to find minutes for 13 players last season. He needs to cut the rotation down to 8-9 (not counting garbage time). Players have to learn each other's tendencies. They have to anticipate and communicate with each other. When you have 5 wings, 3 pts and 5 bigs all getting minutes, you just can't develop any consistency. But I understand why it unfolded the way it did...there was genuine belief that guys like CJ, Raja, Howard and perhaps even Watson or Tinsley would all have trade value at the deadline - but only if they were playing and producing.
 
I think as soon as people starting discovering the weak chain in the Jazz defense (high pick and roll), teams abused the hell out of it.
 
From what I can see we like to pack the paint, and we are a little to okay with giving up the three. I remember the Rockets used to have a no-paint-two philosophy for defense. Which was basically a defense that's goal was to relinquish only two point shots that were not in the paint. I liked the goal of the approach, but I have no idea if they ever achieved their goal or how they attempted to do it.

I'm not a defensive genius, but I know players in this league practice the three point shot enough to punish our defensive 'philosophy'.
 
I find it interesting how Al get's way more blame for poor D than Millsap. To his credit Millsap did start using his hands a lot better last season, forcing more turnovers. When Millsap and Favors were together late in the season, I remember it was FAVORS who chased down 3-point shooters, not Millsap...
Another point; Hayward is a MUCH better defender at SG than SF, another positive benefit of the Marvin Williams trade.
Devin was probably a better overall defender than Mo, but yeah, Mo is feisty. The effort will be there, but at 6'1", he's gonna have problems vs larger PG's...
 
Millsap worked his butt off on defense. Wasn't always effective, but, the effort was there. Jefferson often looked like he was so lost he couldn't put effort out because he had no idea where to direct it.

Mostly what I hated from Jefferson was his inability to protect the rim from guys 6 inches shorter than himself. He couldn't move his feet then jump it seemed. He'd just let guards shoot right over the top of him because he couldn't/wouldn't leave his feet. The resulting layup drills were the low point to the Jazz defense IMHO.
 
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