Jeff Withey Needs To Stay

[akirac73]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h8zVlCmX4w

Yup he got posterized on that play for sure. I don't know why any seven footer would try to draw a charging foul. You do that if you're a little guy with no chance to defend the guy straight up.

If you get dunked on, so what, as long as you're being agressive...I can live with it. Gobert got posterized by Wiggins, big deal, he just comes back a few plays later and shoves the next dunk attempt down his throat.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I like Withey on this team. Another defensive center that can block shots when Gobert is out is awesome. Less of a letdown when Gobert sits, and more fouls if we want to be agressive.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I like Withey on this team. Another defensive center that can block shots when Gobert is out is awesome. Less of a letdown when Gobert sits, and more fouls if we want to be agressive.

Has good enough hands to catch and quickly dunk too. Doesn't seem like a lot to ask, but so many big guys can't do it. He just seems to have that Jazz guy attitude. Happy and grateful to be here.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yup he got posterized on that play for sure. I don't know why any seven footer would try to draw a charging foul. You do that if you're a little guy with no chance to defend the guy straight up.

If you get dunked on, so what, as long as you're being agressive...I can live with it. Gobert got posterized by Wiggins, big deal, he just comes back a few plays later and shoves the next dunk attempt down his throat.

If you are able to get position the charge is actually a much better play regardless of size. I believe Splitter does this a bunch. It's much more manly to block a shot, but there is a chance the ball bounces to the opposing team and they still score. Take a charge and you get the ball and the other player leaves with a foul. There are good situations for both plays.

Centers get posterized all the time as you cited. The play I hate is when guys turn away from the play because they are afraid of ending up on the poster.

 

[bjwsan]

Whoever makes the team out of Cotton/Johnson is going to get cut December 15th anyway. The Jazz will never let their 15th man be a guaranteed contract, that I can guarantee.

Maybe, but $980K is a pretty cheap insurance policy, especially when you're under the floor.
They can afford to keep Johnson, even guaranteed, and afford to trade up, eating the mil (just like with Jerrett)

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Maybe, but $980K is a pretty cheap insurance policy, especially when you're under the floor.
They can afford to keep Johnson, even guaranteed, and afford to trade up, eating the mil (just like with Jerrett)

No, the point is you lose flexibility if you have 15 guaranteed, so they won't do that.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

With 15 spots on the roster, I think there's no way he's not on the team. He's probably one of our top 12, tbh. The guy knows how to play and can come in and perform in limited minutes. He's perfect for the role we have available.

 

[RJF]

And he's dating a playboy playmate... Or is that the reason we want him to stick around?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

No, the point is you lose flexibility if you have 15 guaranteed, so they won't do that.

If both of those guys are better than what is sitting in the D League then what do you need flexibility for? With Exum out I expect us to carry 15 this year. If we need to make a one for two trade then you cut the player then or include them because the salary is small. We rotated a lot of people through last year in hopes of finding guys like Cotton or Johnson.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If both of those guys are better than what is sitting in the D League then what do you need flexibility for? With Exum out I expect us to carry 15 this year. If we need to make a one for two trade then you cut the player then or include them because the salary is small. We rotated a lot of people through last year in hopes of finding guys like Cotton or Johnson.

What if a trade presents itself and we need to cut a player to make room for the trade, or the other team wants to cut salary and wants some non-guaranteed contracts back so they can cut and save money? You always need flexibility because you never know what will present itself. This is a strategy that DL has championed since he has been here, I dont see it changing. Chris Johnson and Bryce Cotton are good, but they are a dime a dozen.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I like Withey on this team. Another defensive center that can block shots when Gobert is out is awesome. Less of a letdown when Gobert sits, and more fouls if we want to be agressive.

Plus he's a competent midrang shooter and ft shooter

 

[colton]

This. The guys rep around the league is as a poster. But that's fine, he goes for it and does block some shots. Just saying the guy gets dunked on, a lot.

Seems pretty respectable to me. Check out who's one notch below him in Opp FG% at the rim.


(From https://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/defense/?sort=FGP_DEFEND_RIM&dir=-1.)

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Plus he's a competent midrang shooter and ft shooter

I dont think Withey has ever take a midrange shot in the NBA and he took like 14 total in his college career and barely made any.

He is supposedly a good practice shooter, but has never proven it in game.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I dont think Withey has ever take a midrange shot in the NBA and he took like 14 total in his college career and barely made any.

He is supposedly a good practice shooter, but has never proven it in game.

Maybe I'm confusing him with someone. Could've swore that was part of his game.


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[Jazz and Utes]

Seems pretty respectable to me. Check out who's one notch below him in Opp FG% at the rim.
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(From https://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/defense/?sort=FGP_DEFEND_RIM&dir=-1.)

WOW holding your opponents under 50% at the rim is super impressive, what is Rudy's %?

 

[Jazz and Utes]

Looked for myself, Gobert's OPP ATR % is 40.4 in 82 games played which is WAY higher than anyone else in the league.....Ibaka is at 40.8 but in 64 games

 

[Jazz and Utes]

Also crazy to think that Gobert averaged 2.3 bpg in 26 mpg, if he avgs 35 mpg does he avg close to 4 bpg?

 

[Doublea]

Looked for myself, Gobert's OPP ATR % is 40.4 in 82 games played which is WAY higher than anyone else in the league.....Ibaka is at 40.8 but in 64 games

Favors' is what, 44%?

 

[Nate505]

If there are 15 spots and 13 are set (at least 12 are, and I think Little Sap is a virtual lock for 13), I wouldn't mind the Jazz throwing one of the last 2 on him.

Him, Johnson or Cotton should get the last two and so far my vote (which counts for jack and ****) is for Whitey and Cotton.

 

[Jazz and Utes]

Favors' is what, 44%?

Yes sir, 43.8% to be exact. For comparisons, Whitesides % is 46.5 and Boogies is 47% and DJordan = 48.5%.


Really impressive what our front office is putting together, with guys like Neto, Hayward and Hood on the perimeter and those guys on our back line defense I seriously don't see how we don't lead the league in pts allowed.