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Jordan Hamilton at #12

BabyPeterzz

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Sorry if this has been hashed over already, but I'd really like to discuss drafting Jordan Hamilton with the #12 pick.

I really like Jordan Hamilton. He's 6'8", 230 lbs Small Forward, that played the 2 in highschool. He's a great shooter, he can stroke it from 3, he's a little weak going to the hole, but his jumpshot looks very nice. He's an aggressive rebounder and looks active defensively too, he at least has the desire to play defense. If he can play the 2, which he wants to, he creates another great mismatch at the 2/3 and addresses the need we have at the wings. I think he would be great playing behind Gordon and replacing AK. We all know he played in the flex last year so he would be at least a little familiar with what the Jazz want to do.He seems like a high character guy too.

DX posted all his stats a strengths and weaknesses vid here:

https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jordan-Hamilton-1321/

Combine interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS7fTRbhPfY

I like his attitude, seems like a good kid. That hip pain issue sounds a little fishy, but I like that he's addressing his quickness with yoga. Very veteran move imo.

I'm officially on the Jordan Hamiltion at #12 train. Sorry to create his own thread, I would like to hear what all you smart ****s think about him and if the Jazz should draft him at #12.
 
To be honest if the Jazz got Hamilton, Thompson, Jimmer or Burks at 12 I'd be more than happy with the draft (given we get either Kanter, Knight, Williams or possibly Irving at #3). At 12 I want a sharpshooter that can spread the floor. I know Burks isn't a dead-eye, but I think he can get to where he's more than serviceable from deep.
 
I like Hamilton too, but he reminds me too much of someone who was supposed to go to Texas as well, who can shoot the ball and has good athleticism, but never can play on a high level consistently enough to secure a starting spot. Do you know who that is?

Hint: he is a lefty.
 
Questions about Hamilton for me would be:

Can he adjust to not being the alpha dog on a team full of scorers?

Can he become more disciplined with his shot selection?

Can he learn to defend?
 
margodydek said:
To be honest if the Jazz got Hamilton, Thompson, Jimmer or Burks at 12 I'd be more than happy with the draft (given we get either Kanter, Knight, Williams or possibly Irving at #3). At 12 I want a sharpshooter that can spread the floor. I know Burks isn't a dead-eye, but I think he can get to where he's more than serviceable from deep.
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I might add Singleton to that list because I like the idea of a lock-down defender. I'd be ok with any of the others you mentioned. With AK likely gone and CJ in an option year (and hopefully NOT extended beyond 2011/12), the Jazz certainly need wings. I say draft at least one guard or SF this year, and target a wing in FA or with the GS pick next year as well. Could also use CJ's pr Memo's expiring to obtain a starter/6th man. I'm hopeful Hayward continues to improve like he did late in the year. If he can start at SG, that will be a real plus.
 
prodigy said:
Questions about Hamilton for me would be:

Can he adjust to not being the alpha dog on a team full of scorers?

Can he become more disciplined with his shot selection?

Can he learn to defend?
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I think these three question marks have knocked Hamilton down the board. I read that he got a bit better his last season in college because they ran the Jazz system, but the year before, it was reported that his teammates hated him for essentially being CJ Miles but worse.
 
Hamilton and Hayward would be a nice combination on the wings spreading the floor for Favors and Jefferson. Both have good size, athleticism, versatility and scoring ability inside and out. Hayward would probably be the "2" because he's a better passer and creator in general. But seriously, I'm not sure Barnes had a much better freshman year than Hamilton did. If Hamilton played at UNC, he might have had much the same spotlight that Barnes had.

Barnes was 16/6/1.4 and 34% from 3pt.
Hamilton was 19/8/2.1 and 39% from 3pt.

Barnes might swing to the SG better than Hamilton, but other than that, I'm not sure what really separates the two.
 
Catchall said:
Hamilton and Hayward would be a nice combination on the wings spreading the floor for Favors and Jefferson. Both have good size, athleticism, versatility and scoring ability inside and out. Hayward would probably be the "2" because he's a better passer and creator in general. But seriously, I'm not sure Barnes had a much better freshman year than Hamilton did. If Hamilton played at UNC, he might have had much the same spotlight that Barnes had.

Barnes was 16/6/1.4 and 34% from 3pt.
Hamilton was 19/8/2.1 and 39% from 3pt.

Barnes might swing to the SG better than Hamilton, but other than that, I'm not sure what really separates the two.
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Talent. Your comparing Barnes freshmen year to Hamilton's Sophomore. Hamilton projects to be a decent shooter, but is not athletic at all. Will be a role player, bench guy in the NBA
 
Catchall said:
Hamilton and Hayward would be a nice combination on the wings spreading the floor for Favors and Jefferson. Both have good size, athleticism, versatility and scoring ability inside and out. Hayward would probably be the "2" because he's a better passer and creator in general. But seriously, I'm not sure Barnes had a much better freshman year than Hamilton did. If Hamilton played at UNC, he might have had much the same spotlight that Barnes had.

Barnes was 16/6/1.4 and 34% from 3pt.
Hamilton was 19/8/2.1 and 39% from 3pt.

Barnes might swing to the SG better than Hamilton, but other than that, I'm not sure what really separates the two.
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Can't just use those stats. The few games I watched of UNC once the Jazz traded Williams showed that Barnes was one of five on a team. I've read that Hamilton was the top player on Texas. Stats show that. Barnes was dropping quite a bit after the bad start, but once he started to heat up near tourney time, he started to rise again. Hamilton was around ten in mock drafts going into the year, and Barnes fell to around 6-8 in mocks at his low point.

Shot selection, ball handling, defense is what separates the two from what I've read. I really liked how Barnes played defense when I watched him. Haven't read anything memorable about Hamilton's defense.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Talent. Your comparing Barnes freshmen year to Hamilton's Sophomore. Hamilton projects to be a decent shooter, but is not athletic at all. Will be a role player, bench guy in the NBA
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Well damn, I thought he was comparing both guys' freshman year. This point alone shoots Barnes way ahead of Hamilton.
 
I remember following the Texas team the moment I heard about their adopted Flex-Offense system earlie this year. In my opinion he is not someone I'd be furious with at the 12th, I just think Singleton has much more value. I mean the CJ miles comparisons are very spot on from what I've seen earlier this year; great shooter, hes below average defensively and not much of an offensive threat we should waste a third pick on. If we are so desperate on getting some good shooters there are a multitude of them in every offseason via FA. We should work on buiilding our team around defense, something that a core of Favors Singleton and Hayward could definitely instill in the years to come.

Besides, apparently Singleton completely shut down Hamilton in a workout they had together (can't find link, on blackberry)
 
I like the thought of Singleton or Hamilton with 12, I'm really starting to like T. Harris too, the guy is really young, he's athletic, he's got good skills, and a good size body. I'd be really happy with one of these guys.
 
prodigy said:
Questions about Hamilton for me would be:

Can he adjust to not being the alpha dog on a team full of scorers?

Can he become more disciplined with his shot selection?

Can he learn to defend?
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To be fair, that is the same set of questions for almost every other player in this draft.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
Which is what your going to get most likely at the 12 pick.
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Exactly, the 12 pick is a place you well never find Harrison Barns. So picking up a guy that has a skill that might be able to contribute right away due to that skill is a pretty good pick at 12
 
hook em horns!

hamilton had a great regular season but was more of a no show in the tournament. hes a great shooter off of curls and off ball screens. not a great athlete, but id be happy with him @ 12. I still think i like fredette at 12 better.
 
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