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Josh Howard out for season!!

My question is, with Bell out and Howard out for the rest of the season, who gets the start @ SG/SF? Will it be Burks/Miles, Burks/Hayward, or Miles/Hayward? My vote goes to Burks/Hayward but I know that's not going to happen.

I wonder if Carrol sees sometime if Bell is out.
 
I'll admit I was a bit hesitant. And the same with Tinsley. Both have been model citizens. I wish Howard nothing but the best (well, as long as he doesn't end up in LA or Miami, that is).

absolutely. josh howard has been playing some nice ball for us this year.

people cheering about his injury is just disgusting.
yes we get it... you happen to like young player X, Y or Z.
but being thankful for an injury or wishing it on someone else (raja, cj) is as low as it gets.
you guys are jazz fans?

tough break for josh.
hopefully he bounces back strongly.
he has shown enough this year to pick up another contract in the league next year, though i don't think it will be with utah.

good luck to him.
 
Well, if Corbin keeps true to form...

MORE CJ.

Corbin loves him some vets. And CJ is the most veteran of the options left. So, plan on Miles starting.
 
absolutely. josh howard has been playing some nice ball for us this year.

people cheering about his injury is just disgusting.
yes we get it... you happen to like young player X, Y or Z.
but being thankful for an injury or wishing it on someone else (raja, cj) is as low as it gets.
you guys are jazz fans?

tough break for josh.
hopefully he bounces back strongly.
he has shown enough this year to pick up another contract in the league next year, though i don't think it will be with utah.

good luck to him.

I think all you folks voicing this sentiment can just hop down off that high horse. Nobody is glad he's injured. They are simply happy someone else gets an opportunity. Nobody really wants Bell injured either, they just want him out of the rotation. And they only want that because they want someone else in the rotation.

Did they express it without much tact? Sure. But, the over-reaction to a bit of a lack of tact could come to a stop now.
 

He's a SF like David Lee is a C. Jeremy Evans cannot guard SFs that challenge his lateral footspeed and strength (his high center of gravity takes away from both, despite his being a beanpole), and he cannot guard a >230 pound chair regardless of position.

My point is he's just not a very good player.

Ask yourself, if he's mostly been played at SF this reason, why is it he couldn't get on the court? SF is one of the bigger weaknesses on this team and he couldn't get on the court. He's also gotten most of his minutes in pure garbage time (where he ALWAYS has Kanter and Favors out there, where Hayward has been starting most of the year and not relegated to garbage time (there being no SF for garbage time situations), Burks, and one of our elder statesmen. He wanted to play Evans, so he played him at the only position that he'll ever have a chance to become a rotation player on a good team but the guy just doesn't play that position (yet?). In the games where Al or Sap can't play, Evans plays as a four in meaningful games.

But sure. Jeremy Evans. Maybe Jeremy Evans.
 
He's a SF like David Lee is a C. Jeremy Evans cannot guard SFs that challenge his lateral footspeed and strength (his high center of gravity takes away from both, despite his being a beanpole), and he cannot guard a >230 pound chair regardless of position.

My point is he's just not a very good player.

Ask yourself, if he's mostly been played at SF this reason, why is it he couldn't get on the court? SF is one of the bigger weaknesses on this team and he couldn't get on the court. He's also gotten most of his minutes in pure garbage time (where he ALWAYS has Kanter and Favors out there, where Hayward has been starting most of the year and not relegated to garbage time (there being no SF for garbage time situations), Burks, and one of our elder statesmen. He wanted to play Evans, so he played him at the only position that he'll ever have a chance to become a rotation player on a good team but the guy just doesn't play that position (yet?). In the games where Al or Sap can't play, Evans plays as a four in meaningful games.

But sure. Jeremy Evans. Maybe Jeremy Evans.
Lets sign Junior Sapp from the DLeague.
 
I suspect Hayward takes most of the minutes guarding Durrant, but that CJ, Millsap, and Favors will do some too.
 
A dedication going out to Josh Howard; he's a joker, he's a smoker, he's a midnight toker...
Josh, I know of a couple places here in LA you can get a medical marijuana license to help you in your recovery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmVusVh4TRQ


And this song was also noted for one of the greatest lines in history..."you're the cutest thing that I ever did see, I really love your peaches, want to shake your tree."
 
He's a SF like David Lee is a C. Jeremy Evans cannot guard SFs that challenge his lateral footspeed and strength (his high center of gravity takes away from both, despite his being a beanpole), and he cannot guard a >230 pound chair regardless of position.

My point is he's just not a very good player.

Ask yourself, if he's mostly been played at SF this reason, why is it he couldn't get on the court? SF is one of the bigger weaknesses on this team and he couldn't get on the court. He's also gotten most of his minutes in pure garbage time (where he ALWAYS has Kanter and Favors out there, where Hayward has been starting most of the year and not relegated to garbage time (there being no SF for garbage time situations), Burks, and one of our elder statesmen. He wanted to play Evans, so he played him at the only position that he'll ever have a chance to become a rotation player on a good team but the guy just doesn't play that position (yet?). In the games where Al or Sap can't play, Evans plays as a four in meaningful games.

But sure. Jeremy Evans. Maybe Jeremy Evans.

Evans is a PF in a SF body. He has no SF skills unfortunately, and way too small and weak to make it as a PF. Jazz just need to say goodbye to a guy who really fills no position and never will.
 
I think all you folks voicing this sentiment can just hop down off that high horse. Nobody is glad he's injured. They are simply happy someone else gets an opportunity. Nobody really wants Bell injured either, they just want him out of the rotation. And they only want that because they want someone else in the rotation.

Did they express it without much tact? Sure. But, the over-reaction to a bit of a lack of tact could come to a stop now.


go back and read the thread buddy and if you're still ok with people talking about their own team's players like that than fair enough, i can't help you.

high horse has nothing to with it.
if we want to talk about rotation changes, let's do it.

i'd expect to see a few more minutes for carroll, burks and evans, but get the feeling that cj is likely to gain more minutes than any of those guys.
could create a dilemna for management if he puts up good numbers between now and end of the year or improves his consistency on the road.
 
I never want to hear that a player is injured let alone one of our own. (That is like hoping that the veteran warehouse employee has a stack of boxes fall on him so that the up and coming young guy can finally get some time on the forklift)

I hope Josh can recover and possible come back next season with a veteran bench roll like Watson has. If he is coming back as a 20+ minute per game guy no thanks but all teams need solid veteran play to really win.


Its really sweet how everyone is saying that no one should be happy that he is injured, but come on, comparing this situation to a forklift driver in a warehouse?

He will be ok. He has the best doctors working on him, the best physical therapists, strength and conditioning coaches, and he can play again if he works hard and rehabs.... his career is not over if he doesn't want it to be..... Oh and he has made millions of dollars.

If this happened to me then i would be totally screwed. I would probably lose my job, house, and wife and get on unemployment or something.

I have been wanting to see more burks all year. If this is what it takes, then so be it.
Would I prefer that burks and hayward would just get the majority of the minutes with no injuries? Sure i would, but i dont think it would happen without an injury like this.... So i am happy...... And Josh Howard will be just fine if he chooses to be.
 
Being glad that any player is injured is classless. It doesn't matter how they perform. You can be excited to see more of Burks but still show some humanity when a player gets hurt.
 
I think all you folks voicing this sentiment can just hop down off that high horse. Nobody is glad he's injured. They are simply happy someone else gets an opportunity. Nobody really wants Bell injured either, they just want him out of the rotation. And they only want that because they want someone else in the rotation.

Did they express it without much tact? Sure. But, the over-reaction to a bit of a lack of tact could come to a stop now.

No one is on their high horse. It seems like you are trying to rationalize comments that stated they were happy he was hurt.
 
My question is, with Bell out and Howard out for the rest of the season, who gets the start @ SG/SF? Will it be Burks/Miles, Burks/Hayward, or Miles/Hayward? My vote goes to Burks/Hayward but I know that's not going to happen.

I would guess that we see a depth chart that looks something like this:

PG: Devin Harris, Jamaal Tinsley, Earl Watson
SG: C.J. Miles, Alec Burks, Raja Bell
SF: Gordon Hayward, Jeremy Evans
PF: Paul Millsap, Derrick Favors
C: Al Jefferson, Enes Kanter
 
Howard's physical defense will be missed. Wish him a speedy recovery!
Hopefully the youngens will begin step up on a consistant basis.
 
Maybe it's already been mentioned.
If Jazz knew Howard was hurt this bad maybe that's why they didn't
try too hard to make a trade.
 
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