Kanter & Burks Start P3

[idiot]

Not to say that his Vert has not improved but as some one who helps train people for combine events vertical gains are usually technique improvement and not real improvement. Obviously over time places like this (and ours) help people improve vertical. If some one wants to improve his vert over a short period of time we just teach them technique. Little things like where to stand where to jump from and the biggest is learning to pack your shoulder by using your lat for your standing reach and then extending out when you jump. That alone will give you a 3" improvement in a 1 hour training session. We also teach them how to activate the muscles right before jumping to improve the numbers.

I am not saying that he has not improved his on court jumping, just that you can improve your vert and not improve your performance on court.

Also a lot of this stuff takes time to equate to your performance. You can get more reactive at one exercise but it might take months or even years until that transfers to your actual abilities while playing a sport.

Thanks for this insider perspective. Just wondering, based on your perspective, how would you go about evaluating whether the Jazz are getting good return on their investment in sending players to P3? And what should the rest of us reasonably be looking for (and over what time period) to try to see if P3 is helping players' athleticism?

 

[orangello]

Not to say that his Vert has not improved but as some one who helps train people for combine events vertical gains are usually technique improvement and not real improvement. Obviously over time places like this (and ours) help people improve vertical. If some one wants to improve his vert over a short period of time we just teach them technique. Little things like where to stand where to jump from and the biggest is learning to pack your shoulder by using your lat for your standing reach and then extending out when you jump. That alone will give you a 3" improvement in a 1 hour training session. We also teach them how to activate the muscles right before jumping to improve the numbers.

I am not saying that he has not improved his on court jumping, just that you can improve your vert and not improve your performance on court.

Also a lot of this stuff takes time to equate to your performance. You can get more reactive at one exercise but it might take months or even years until that transfers to your actual abilities while playing a sport.

Stop being a wet blanket. You are really hurting my optimism.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Not to say that his Vert has not improved but as some one who helps train people for combine events vertical gains are usually technique improvement and not real improvement. Obviously over time places like this (and ours) help people improve vertical. If some one wants to improve his vert over a short period of time we just teach them technique. Little things like where to stand where to jump from and the biggest is learning to pack your shoulder by using your lat for your standing reach and then extending out when you jump. That alone will give you a 3" improvement in a 1 hour training session. We also teach them how to activate the muscles right before jumping to improve the numbers.

I am not saying that he has not improved his on court jumping, just that you can improve your vert and not improve your performance on court.

Also a lot of this stuff takes time to equate to your performance. You can get more reactive at one exercise but it might take months or even years until that transfers to your actual abilities while playing a sport.

Interesting. Thank you. I would fellate you for said info but I wouldn't even no where to begin.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Thanks for this insider perspective. Just wondering, based on your perspective, how would you go about evaluating whether the Jazz are getting good return on their investment in sending players to P3? And what should the rest of us reasonably be looking for (and over what time period) to try to see if P3 is helping players' athleticism?

I 100% think it is worth it but I would temper your expectations. Generally athletes we only see in the offseason start showing significant improvement at about 6 weeks. When they return the next off season we almost start over with the training. I hope that whatever they are doing at P3 is coordinated with Jazz Strength and Conditioning coach (Mark McKown). For real improvement a lot of these things need to be worked on a lot for them to transition over to the court. When you change how some one moves they can get worse temporarily since they are changing and spending more time thinking about it, even more so when they apply it too their sport. You have to do it enough so you dont think about it. I think the first thing we as fans should notice if P3 is working is their reactivity. For example Kanters first jump might improve but I think we will notice the 2nd/3rd jump being almost as high as the first and his feet spending less time on the floor between jumps compared to last year.

 

[idiot]

I 100% think it is worth it but I would temper your expectations. Generally athletes we only see in the offseason start showing significant improvement at about 6 weeks. When they return the next off season we almost start over with the training. I hope that whatever they are doing at P3 is coordinated with Jazz Strength and Conditioning coach (Mark McKown). For real improvement a lot of these things need to be worked on a lot for them to transition over to the court. When you change how some one moves they can get worse temporarily since they are changing and spending more time thinking about it, even more so when they apply it too their sport. You have to do it enough so you dont think about it. I think the first thing we as fans should notice if P3 is working is their reactivity. For example Kanters first jump might improve but I think we will notice the 2nd/3rd jump being almost as high as the first and his feet spending less time on the floor between jumps compared to last year.

Thanks for the perspective.