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Kanter to workout with Kiki Vandeweghe

cowhide said:
Yea Wes I think you are over thinking this. I do not know how old you are but I watch Kiki in his prime and Kiki was a great shooter and had some nice post moves. He would be great for Kanter helping him with his outside shooting. Kanter's form is great. It is how he sets guys up and how he shoot that 15-20 ft. Again, Kanter can benefit from any NBA player who has a specific talent. Kiki was a scorer and shooter. The most important thing is Kanter is working on his game.
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Yes agree.

Moreover, KOC is no fool. This would have been a calculated move on his part for sure.
 
How good was Popovich as a player? Phil Jackson?


Your playing career doesn't mean that much in relation to your coaching career.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
How good was Popovich as a player? Phil Jackson?


Your playing career doesn't mean that much in relation to your coaching career.
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nope, just have near-GOAT-at-their-position type players (MJ, Kobe, Duncan, hell even Sloan cemented his career through S&M) and you'll be successful.
 
Maybe, just maybe, Kanter is going to work out with Kiki. Kiki was one of the best conditioned players during his playing days and maybe that's what Kanter is doing at 360 Performance.
 
You have to love what Kanter is doing. How many players with potential throw it all away because of bad work habits?
At least Enes is doing his part. He needed to get ripped up, stay away from the pulls of money/fame, and work on his game.

No one here is really excited about Kanter. His rookie season is being looking at very negatively. All things considered I think he had a good rookie season.
Now let's see if he can make the jump with one year under his belt, and training camp.
 
I was very encouraged by Kanter's rookie season.

I am almost equally as discouraged with his summer league play and his refusal to play for the Turkish NT. Of course there are some behind-the-scenes things, but from my vantage point, Kanter's been doing more preparation and less playing than almost anyone, and he needs to balance that out a bit. I sure hope he doesn't have an unrealistic appraisal of himself.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I was very encouraged by Kanter's rookie season.

I am almost equally as discouraged with his summer league play and his refusal to play for the Turkish NT. Of course there are some behind-the-scenes things, but from my vantage point, Kanter's been doing more preparation and less playing than almost anyone, and he needs to balance that out a bit. I sure hope he doesn't have an unrealistic appraisal of himself.
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I second this.

I'm sure last year was stressful for him. He's created something of a 'home' in preparation for play (sitting out like he did at UK), and he seems to have rushed back into that comfortable/familiar place. I hope I'm wrong about that, but he's gonna have to prove otherwise to me.

(That said, there has been a huge over-reaction against Kanter this summer. I'm still patient and optimistic.)
 
I like this. A slow, lumbering white dude with no vertical who at his peak was still a great player is the best person to teach Enes, who right now is simply a slow, lumbering white dude with no vertical.
 
I was encouraged by Kanter's rookie season in the sense that even if he doesn't develop that much, he is at least a top tier rebounder.
 
It's ****ing irritating listening to some people who assume that because Kanter isn't an elite leaper he must therefore be slow. Not true. Look at the measurements. Look at his success guarding the PnR last year.

Thanks,
Your sanity
 
NAOS said:
It's ****ing irritating listening to some people who assume that because Kanter isn't an elite leaper he must therefore be slow. Not true. Look at the measurements. Look at his success guarding the PnR last year.

Thanks,
Your sanity
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This. He defended the PnR at a better than average rate.
 
Kanter blew up PnRs. I couldn't believe how he picked up PGs. I really hope that continues.
 
I looked up Kiki on Wikipedia, and I do maintain some level of skepticism when it comes to Wikipedia. One thing stood out to me in particular:

"His offensive repertoire was essentially limited to a single move, the jab step, but he was so proficient at this lone move that it was often referred to as the "Kiki Move" toward the end of his career."

Kanter needs to have more than one move, but maybe he will master the jab step with Kiki. On another note, it seems odd that Kiki ever worked for the Mavs because he was drafted by the Mavs but refused to play for them and demanded a trade.
 
nightmare3983 said:
"His offensive repertoire was essentially limited to a single move, the jab step, but he was so proficient at this lone move that it was often referred to as the "Kiki Move" toward the end of his career."

Kanter needs to have more than one move, but maybe he will master the jab step with Kiki. On another note, it seems odd that Kiki ever worked for the Mavs because he was drafted by the Mavs but refused to play for them and demanded a trade.
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Kiki averaged about 24.5 points over seven seasons from age 23-29. He definitely had more than the jab-step, but who knows what on earth he's doing with Kanter. I'm all for seeing Kanter drive to the basket more than once all year or seeing him swing his arms around with the ball in his hands like he's doing some sort of Mr. Miyagi training maneuver. Liked his defensive speed, but he had tunnel vision a bit too much.
 
JJAS said:
but he had tunnel vision a bit too much.
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I agree. This is my biggest fear about Kanter. I am worried that he might turn into the great white hole. I would hope that someone works with him to improve his passing.
 
orangello said:
I agree. This is my biggest fear about Kanter. I am worried that he might turn into the great white hole. I would hope that someone works with him to improve his passing.
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What the ****? The term "black hole" has nothing to do with AL's race, it's the fact that once something goes into a black hole, it isn't coming back.

The "Great White Hole" just sounds like some porn stars bleached *******.
 
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