Kanter
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illyasova
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It is about Corbin's mentality. Blame him not giving enough minutes whtever he plays even in the 4 overtime match or 20 points differenced match against Nets.
Weezur
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There is that...but I hate how he always brings down the ball off a pass. He needs to learn his way out of that.
vegas
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Reading this thread it reminds me that I was concerned Favors would pan out. Last year he was looking lost, discouraged etc. I remember thinking Kanter was the better of the two early on this season as well. Now it is clear that Favors is playing better. The point is I am learning to be patient with guys, especially young guys. I am not overly concerned with Kanter having a bit of a slump (he has shown he is smart and skilled). I think it's part of the learning/adapting process. If it's related to pt/coaching, he will learn how to overcome that. It is clear to me that Kanter is the type of player that is very determined!
Trollolololol
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If Jazz makes the playoffs,this is a win-win situation for kanter. but if jazz fail, it will be a second consecutive lost year for him and jazz organisation.
vslice02
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The concern for me recently hasn't been Kanter's play as much as it's pretty apparent that Corbin doesn't trust Kanter. Thought Enes was playing solid ball after he first checked-in tonight but he only got 6 minutes in the first half (Ty even came back with Al before the under-9 TO). One thing that hurt Kanter's minutes in the 2nd-half was NJ got back into the game playing small ball with Wallace at the 4, and when Sap picked up his 4th foul Ty countered by replacing Sap with Carroll and playing Favors at the 5.
Hit a nice baseline jumper and had the travel on the one postup but the fact he rebounds and plays solid positional defense is enough of a reason to leave him out there even if he's not giving you production at the offensive end.
Hit a nice baseline jumper and had the travel on the one postup but the fact he rebounds and plays solid positional defense is enough of a reason to leave him out there even if he's not giving you production at the offensive end.
From what I have see I think a lot of Kanter's lack of PT has to do with the fact that he won't pass. We all get on Jefferson for not passing and holding up the offense. But Kanter has been much worse than Jefferson in that area lately. Every time Enes touches the ball in the post he is shooting. No question. Thats why teams come hard with the double on him. They know he isn't passing it back out. The scouting report is out on him now and teams are taking away what he does well. (rebound, Finish in single coverage). I think when Kanter gets it a little better on the offensive end (other than scoring) he well see he time go back up. But his TO's have been pretty high lately
freakazoid
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The biggest problem for Kanter right now probably has more to do with lack of minutes to go around, rather than him being not ready to play. He deserves minutes, but unfortunately for him, Utah has 3 guys that arguably deserve starter minutes. Not only that, but Utah is playing for a playoff spot, and it's pretty common for teams to tighten up their rotation in this position. I don't think it's like the Jimmer situation at all. Jimmer came into the league with 4 years of college. With Kanter's limited experience, Jazz fans should be thrilled for him to be as far along as he is. Like it or not, we are going to have to be patient with his development. That's the price of having him on a team that's good enough to be in the playoffs.
I hate to say it, but if Utah is a playoff team, you really shouldn't get your hopes up for Kanter to be getting major minutes anytime soon. Next year likely will be very much like this.
freakazoid
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Nah, he'll be fine. Utah will develop him slowly, but it will be in a winning atmosphere. We've already seen the fight in this kid against some of the best competition in the league. Koufos doesn't even belong in the same sentence as Enes. Enes just needs to keep working hard, and be ready when his time comes. We might have to have a little patience, but I see no need to panic just yet.
spycam1
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Next year better be different, if not for the sake of Kanter, then for the sake of Favors. You don't trade the face of your franchise for a player you plan on bringing off the bench for three years. I'll be very disappointed with KOC if he doesn't trade either Al or Millsap this summer...it will greatly hinder the development of Favors and Kanter, you can be sure of it.
Brown Notes
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kanter shouldn't be having too many problems with fitness.
even in a shortened season he is rarely seeing more than 15 mins a night and he apparently worked out the whole time he sat out at kentucky.
i would say a few factors are working against him:
- the emergence of favours who is receiving more extended minutes at the 4/5
- shortening of the rotation while we are on a winning streak with an eye on the playoffs
- other teams recognising his limitations, making him a little less effective in the same spot minutes he has been playing
i do think he will be a serviceable big man and capable starter within a few years time.
i'm also really glad we got lucky with burks at #12.
it makes things a bit easier to show patience with a developing #3 pick.
even in a shortened season he is rarely seeing more than 15 mins a night and he apparently worked out the whole time he sat out at kentucky.
i would say a few factors are working against him:
- the emergence of favours who is receiving more extended minutes at the 4/5
- shortening of the rotation while we are on a winning streak with an eye on the playoffs
- other teams recognising his limitations, making him a little less effective in the same spot minutes he has been playing
i do think he will be a serviceable big man and capable starter within a few years time.
i'm also really glad we got lucky with burks at #12.
it makes things a bit easier to show patience with a developing #3 pick.
If Kanter can get some kind of confidence or assurance that with good and bettering play he will get more minutes, I think we'd see a much different player. And I don't think that's outrageous either.. I haven't seen even that level of commitment from the coaching staff and despite having a good record RIGHT NOW, I don't know that the young guys have been given proper credit or dues paid from the sources that matter (most of the media, coaching staff) and how this might impact the growth curve of the guys that matter now and really can matter even more than the guy(s) playing ahead of them if given a fair opportunity.
All I want is a championship. I don't see it happening with Al at the helm. That's the easiest way I can put it.
All I want is a championship. I don't see it happening with Al at the helm. That's the easiest way I can put it.
Get right outta town.
spycam1
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This. Oh my god, this.
carolinajazz
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...when we have the lead...and want to frustrate the heck out of the opposing teams hip hoppers....put in Kanter who will knee, elbow, push, shove and just in general make the other teams big guys want to take a break on the bench to rest there bumps and bruises!
I really hope he plays summer league. It would be fun as hell watching Kanter utterly dominate inferior competition/physique. Someone might even end up death by Underkanter.