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Kemba or Tobias, who would you rather have?

Kemba or Tobias, who do you take?

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I’m guessing most have said Harris. And I can’t disagree with that.

But I can’t be the only one bored of seeing great PGs slice up the NBA while we are still stuck with Bricky who airballs wide open 3s and can’t beat his man off the dribble.

Even if we just had Fox or Murray, we would’ve beaten Houston down. Our offense is just so painful to watch most of the time. Mitchell basically has to go 1 on 5 and score, hope Jingles hits a 3, or hope that Gobert catches one of his lobs. It’d sure be nice to have a guy like Kemba who, like CJ McCollum, can go off when our Dlil needs a break.
 
Kemba is still my guy but I think if what @LoPo said earlier about the Jazz possibly being able to sign Harris and then trade for Conley works from a cap standpoint... that would be my #1 dream scenario as it addresses both positions with key guys.

I just have concerns over Tobias' ability to create a shot for himself or others come playoff time, and that's exactly the need the Jazz have to address this offseason if the team wants to be anything more than 1st/2nd round fodder.
 
Sandman822 said:
Kemba is still my guy but I think if what @LoPo said earlier about the Jazz possibly being able to sign Harris and then trade for Conley works from a cap standpoint... that would be my #1 dream scenario as it addresses both positions with key guys.

I just have concerns over Tobias' ability to create a shot for himself or others come playoff time, and that's exactly the need the Jazz have to address this offseason if the team wants to be anything more than 1st/2nd round fodder.
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Dude he’s an elite PNR ball handler
 
Sandman822 said:
Kemba is still my guy but I think if what @LoPo said earlier about the Jazz possibly being able to sign Harris and then trade for Conley works from a cap standpoint... that would be my #1 dream scenario as it addresses both positions with key guys.

I just have concerns over Tobias' ability to create a shot for himself or others come playoff time, and that's exactly the need the Jazz have to address this offseason if the team wants to be anything more than 1st/2nd round fodder.
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To your first paragraph, the idea was introduced by @Handlogten's Heros , @LoPo virtually dislikes Mike Conley for some reason.

To your second, Tobias was the best PnR ballhandler from the 4 spot in the NBA and the Jazz run the most PnR in the league. Harris also came into the league as a mid-range scorer with a penchant for isolation. In the time since, he's rounded out his game and polished his shot selection to the point that his role naturally shrinks on a team like the Sixers. On this team, he would fill more holes than arguably anyone else in the league. He is THE get this off-season (outside of Kawhi or KD).
 
Not sure if I already voted. I think so and I think I voted Tobias but thinking recently about it again, I would vote Kemba. His abilities to slash, attack, penetrate, get to the line and create stands out most from Tobias and is needed. I also think he’s an insanely fierce competitor and thrives in big moments which is the reason we’re getting him—deeper playoff runs. He could be exposed on defense but I think he’d take to coaching well and but his *** on that end and quite frankly, not have to expend every shred of energy on offense like he probably had to in Charlotte since we have Donovan. Moreover, defense, to me, is more important on the interior. If someone gets by him, we have Rudy and could get a 4 who is solid on d.

But having things the other way around could pose issues. Tobias pretty much blows on d. Average at absolute best. If Rudy is out of position or helping, Tobias isn’t a great choice to have as a last line of defense. And he doesn’t bring the attacking, penetrating, getting to the line like Kemba does which are things we sorely need. Most of all, and I’m basing this off my buddy who’s a big sixers fan, he says Tobias is the type of guy you’d pretty much regret giving a max contract right away. And someone’s gonna give him that. So yeah, Kemba.
 
NUMBERICA said:
To your first paragraph, the idea was introduced by @Handlogten's Heros , @LoPo virtually dislikes Mike Conley for some reason.

To your second, Tobias was the best PnR ballhandler from the 4 spot in the NBA and the Jazz run the most PnR in the league. Harris also came into the league as a mid-range scorer with a penchant for isolation. In the time since, he's rounded out his game and polished his shot selection to the point that his role naturally shrinks on a team like the Sixers. On this team, he would fill more holes than arguably anyone else in the league. He is THE get this off-season (outside of Kawhi or KD).
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If we got Harris AND Conley then for sure, it's fantastic. I think getting Conley without another great player like Harris is foolish. Conley is not the solution. He is a nice player, but he isn't the difference between us and Houston or GS without KD or Portland....

We need either great now or great down the road. Getting overpaid good now isn't wise.

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Sandman822 said:
We didn't really see it throughout the entire playoffs so forgive me for not thinking he really has it.
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Ya he kind of sucked for Philly.
Hopefully he recognizes that and leaves for a place that he fits better (Utah)

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The Thriller said:
I’m guessing most have said Harris. And I can’t disagree with that.

But I can’t be the only one bored of seeing great PGs slice up the NBA while we are still stuck with Bricky who airballs wide open 3s and can’t beat his man off the dribble.

Even if we just had Fox or Murray, we would’ve beaten Houston down. Our offense is just so painful to watch most of the time. Mitchell basically has to go 1 on 5 and score, hope Jingles hits a 3, or hope that Gobert catches one of his lobs. It’d sure be nice to have a guy like Kemba who, like CJ McCollum, can go off when our Dlil needs a break.
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Fox or Murray? You mean Jamal Murray? Because he isn't a P G. Also you can both of them to Jazz and your not going beat the Beard. What do they have in the water in Utah that makes y'all lose your bball iq? I know Mormons love bball and have met a many that can actually play and they play team ball but when it comes to Jazz.lol. I'M also lol at Murray as PG for the Jazz. Doesn't move the needle at all. Sure he can .ale more shots than RR but he would also turn the ball over ten plus times a game of he was running an offdnse. HEe doesn't run the offense for Nuggets. In fact the time Jokic is struggling or off the floor so was Jamal for Montee Morris.
 
I think this draft will be very telling who we go after. Draft a PG, we go after Harris and vice versa
 
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