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Kevin Pelton (analytics guru) would have taken Exum #1

Jazz4ever said:
Lets call a spade a spade. You don't ever make a value based decision like that to pass up tier 1. They thought Exum was tier 2. All we can hope now is they were wrong :)
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I hope that they are wrong. It will be very interesting to see how much Dante improves from SL to the FIBA World Cup then to the NBA. I would think that with that much time working with a team we should see some improvement.
 
akirac73 said:
Some questions are better left unanswered. Like the time I found a hundred dollar bill lying on the ground in an empty parking lot, I never questioned why someone would leave it there...I'm just happy I was able to put it in my pocket.
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So that was YOU!
I had just taken out the last of my money from my savings account to buy groceries for my family. Got to the checkout line and was distraught to find that my money was no longer in the pocket of my well-worn and patched jeans. Searched everywhere before returning home to tell a sobbing wife and starving children that there would be no food that night, nor any clean diapers for the baby.
 
Core4 said:
So that was YOU!
I had just taken out the last of my money from my savings account to buy groceries for my family. Got to the checkout line and was distraught to find that my money was no longer in the pocket of my well-worn and patched jeans. Searched everywhere before returning home to tell a sobbing wife and starving children that there would be no food that night, nor any clean diapers for the baby.
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Sorry not me...this was in a Best Buy parking lot.
 
Core4 said:
So that was YOU!
I had just taken out the last of my money from my savings account to buy groceries for my family. Got to the checkout line and was distraught to find that my money was no longer in the pocket of my well-worn and patched jeans. Searched everywhere before returning home to tell a sobbing wife and starving children that there would be no food that night, nor any clean diapers for the baby.
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Why are u wasting time on jazzfanz? Go find some more money for your family!!!
 
Jazz4ever said:
Lets call a spade a spade. You don't ever make a value based decision like that to pass up tier 1. They thought Exum was tier 2. All we can hope now is they were wrong :)
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I agree. It gives comfort to know it was the Orlando Magic not the Spurs or OKC. I mean the Magic's GM Hennigan is one of the worst GMs in the league. He recently signed 31-year old Frye to a $32m contract, and jobless cancer Ben Gordon to $4.5m/year. And before that he traded valuable Arron Afflalo for a bag of chips! If was DL, I would keep good friends with this guy and pick his pockets once the opportunity arises ;)
 
jjscap said:
I agree. It gives comfort to know it was the Orlando Magic not the Spurs or OKC. I mean the Magic's GM Hennigan is one of the worst GMs in the league. He recently signed 31-year old Frye to a $32m contract, and jobless cancer Ben Gordon to $4.5m/year. And before that he traded valuable Arron Afflalo for a bag of chips! If was DL, I would keep good friends with this guy and pick his pockets once the opportunity arises ;)
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DL was once on the radio saying he thought the Dwight to Lakers trade was one of the most lopsided trade the NBA has ever seen.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Lets call a spade a spade. You don't ever make a value based decision like that to pass up tier 1. They thought Exum was tier 2. All we can hope now is they were wrong :)
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Core4 said:
Yes, very good point. The only PF's projected to be on the board at #12 were Saric and Payne - and maybe McBuckets (a tweener). Saric wasn't coming over and perhaps they just didn't see Payne as lottery value. They probably fell in love with Payton and had Ennis as a backup plan.

Still think it was a mistake. You don't pass up a Tier-1 player for Tier-2.
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Well, the following is a RUMOR and have not been confirmed by anybody who is even close to being credible, so I woudn't take it seriously, but some folks in Orlando say that Exum had a workout with the Magic and didn't do well at all. They say they put him up against Oladipo and Exum was completely overmatched. They probably decided that this makes Exum is not tier 1. Which for me is ridiculous. 1-on-1 is about the worst way to evaluate a PG and especially when you match a physical specimen with 3 years of experience against college-level and NBA-level competition like Oladipo against a boy who's played only against high-school kids so far. What makes Exum tier 1 is precisely what you see in a full 5-on-5 game(first step in the context of a game, use of picks, passing, vision, court awareness, feel for the game, etc.), and what you can not see in a 1-on-1 game. What makes his tier 1 is not his current use of his physical attributes, but rather the potential of his physical attributes after several seasons of coaching and learning at the highest level of basketball.
 
Hantlers said:
If you can expound, then you should probably do so.
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It's just not a big deal.. but when Exum worked out for ORL, his shot wasn't falling for like 15 straight and he got frustrated and just went hard at the basket and dunked the ball hard.. but without being told to do so. So someone from the magic said to victor, go show him how its done (and meant the shootaround). But VO decided to be funny, and with Exum just standing under the rim, he just went and dunked on Dante. The joke became that Victor 'showed' Dante.... and Dante didnt play along with the little funny too well... which may have played into our hands.
 
PKM said:
It's just not a big deal.. but when Exum worked out for ORL, his shot wasn't falling for like 15 straight and he got frustrated and just went hard at the basket and dunked the ball hard.. but without being told to do so. So someone from the magic said to victor, go show him how its done (and meant the shootaround). But VO decided to be funny, and with Exum just standing under the rim, he just went and dunked on Dante. The joke became that Victor 'showed' Dante.... and Dante didnt play along with the little funny too well... which may have played into our hands.
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Ha, awesome if true and that helped us nab Exum.


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PKM said:
It's just not a big deal.. but when Exum worked out for ORL, his shot wasn't falling for like 15 straight and he got frustrated and just went hard at the basket and dunked the ball hard.. but without being told to do so. So someone from the magic said to victor, go show him how its done (and meant the shootaround). But VO decided to be funny, and with Exum just standing under the rim, he just went and dunked on Dante. The joke became that Victor 'showed' Dante.... and Dante didnt play along with the little funny too well... which may have played into our hands.
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Thanks for sharing...now I can't wait for the first matchup of the season with Orlando. It'll be Exum's turn to "show how it's done"...
 
PKM said:
It's just not a big deal.. but when Exum worked out for ORL, his shot wasn't falling for like 15 straight and he got frustrated and just went hard at the basket and dunked the ball hard.. but without being told to do so. So someone from the magic said to victor, go show him how its done (and meant the shootaround). But VO decided to be funny, and with Exum just standing under the rim, he just went and dunked on Dante. The joke became that Victor 'showed' Dante.... and Dante didnt play along with the little funny too well... which may have played into our hands.
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Sound s like high school shenannigans and hi jinx

No horseplay whoresplay
 
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