Miggs
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He’s an ******* who doesn’t get it. Sorry, if you don’t care about playing defense, you don’t care about winning.
Key's Pouting
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The Jazz Wonderbra
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What does Keyonte + the T-pups pick get us? Can we get another lottery pick?
My point is that you can **** at defense with or without pouting. The Jazz have a long list of horrible defenders but they don't pout like Key. Don't get me wrong, I think Key's pouting is part of the problem and shows a poor mentality, but if he started doing angry faces and was locked in like Sexton he'd still suck at defense just like Sexton.
I dont see any reason to trade Keyonte. You'd be selling low. The Jazz shouldnt be in hurry to move off project if they show any kind of promise, and Keyonte shows promise.
I gotta be honest, when I’m projecting how to build the Jazz into a championship team, I unintentionally never consider Keyonte a part of that team. I don’t know how an undersized chucker that doesn’t play defense and has 0 intangibles fits into a team like that.
Tanktastic
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Ain't no GM so stupid as to trade Flagg for Keyonte, let's say the #4 pick and some bad other picks.
He didn’t say you could trade Keyonte for Flagg. Try again.
Yep. No reason to sell low on the kid unless you fall in love with a player in the draft and he is the piece to make it happen. One conversation I would try to have is with the rockets for Whitmore. They probably say no but I'm definitely asking.
Even with his significant flaws, Keyonte has a 0 OBPM and averages 16.6 on 13.5 shots per game. Not great efficiency, but for a guy who shoots 39/34 splits, it's pretty good.
He just has to start making improvement in his consistency next year. He's a pretty good passer and draws fouls at a decent rate. Just has to start making shots at a higher rate.
He just has to start making improvement in his consistency next year. He's a pretty good passer and draws fouls at a decent rate. Just has to start making shots at a higher rate.
Tanktastic
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No, he didn't. Neither did I.
We both said "Flagg for the Jazz 1st this year + Keyonte + Minny/Cavs bad picks".
And no-one is doing that trade. Probably not even if the Jazz pick is #2.
Tanktastic
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@NUMBERICA Exactly what is your problem?
Flagg = Flagg
Keyonte = Keyonte = Key
let's say the #4 pick = the Jazz pick this year
some bad other picks = Minny/Cavs bad picks = the acquired 1st(s)
Flagg = Flagg
Keyonte = Keyonte = Key
let's say the #4 pick = the Jazz pick this year
some bad other picks = Minny/Cavs bad picks = the acquired 1st(s)
He didn’t say you could trade a bunch of stuff for Flagg.
I’m just trying to clear up any apparent confusion which there is a surprising abundance of starting with the point above.
I feel the same, but I also would be open to trading him if we get Harper or VJ, especially if we can't move Clarkson or Sexton. There is a point where our guard rotation is too crowded and we can't give all of our young guys enough development time.
It's pretty easy for me to see his path to a positive offensive player. He's a much better passer/play maker than what I would consider a chucker, he just needs to improve his shot profile. It's more difficult for me to see the path to be an average defensive player, but I think he's shown significant improvement since going to the bench and so I'm not mad at the progress.
homeytennis
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Trey Burke got dumped for a second round pick after his third season with the Jazz and no playoffs in that period. Quin grew tired of Trey's act.
If Key doesn't improve at all next year, then he probably should get traded.
I would hate to give up on a player as young as him before year three though, since so many players see significant growth in year three.
homeytennis
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The Lakers gave up on a lottery pick guard (JHS) this year in his second year and traded him to the Jazz who promptly waived him. It happens. It's just the timing of the DN story was kind of odd. I'm wondering if Key's behavior was getting worse and the team gave the OK for her to run with it.
Chargers Jazz Angels
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I assume you understand what plagiarism is? If you are going to quote something you need to include the article that is associated with the quote. Let me demonstrate
Keyonte George needs to find a better way to deal with his frustration
George’s body language makes him seem disinterested in what the Jazz are doing.
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