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Losing another defender after Bradley and not upgrading Thomas on the defensive end on top of it. Horford is a smart defender but I don't think Smart and Hayward will be enough help.
 
Losing another defender after Bradley and not upgrading Thomas on the defensive end on top of it. Horford is a smart defender but I don't think Smart and Hayward will be enough help.

Kyrie is definitely an upgrade defensively over IT, hell pretty much anyone is. Kyrie is a guy who can play defense if he really tries and wants to. IT can try his heart out and still be the worst defender in teh NBA.

I think this would also give them cap-space next year?
 
Kyrie is definitely an upgrade defensively over IT, hell pretty much anyone is. Kyrie is a guy who can play defense if he really tries and wants to. IT can try his heart out and still be the worst defender in teh NBA.

I think this would also give them cap-space next year?

I would do the trade if I were Boston. Kyrie has 3 years on his contract, Thomas has 1 and he will get close to the max somewhere.

It's just Kyrie isn't a significant upgrade over Thomas defensively and they are losing another backbone of their defense. It's a cause for concern.
 
This is horrible trade for Boston IMO. I will say I hate Irving as much as I hate Melo. They're trading TI, Crowder and picks? What the hell!!


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I would do the trade if I were Boston. Kyrie has 3 years on his contract, Thomas has 1 and he will get close to the max somewhere.

It's just Kyrie isn't a significant upgrade over Thomas defensively and they are losing another backbone of their defense. It's a cause for concern.

Yeah but the 3rd year for Kyrie is a player option he will for sure decline.
 
I would do the trade if I were Boston. Kyrie has 3 years on his contract, Thomas has 1 and he will get close to the max somewhere.

It's just Kyrie isn't a significant upgrade over Thomas defensively and they are losing another backbone of their defense. It's a cause for concern.

Brad Stevens turned IT into a star. Think about what he can do for Kyrie Irving.
 
Great move by Cleveland.

I just hope, for their sake, they don't max out IT if Lebron leaves.
 
I just don't see it from Boston's side. Upgraded their PG spot imo (better deal, younger), but at the price of Crowder and a lotto pick in a stacked looking draft (Zizic as a throw in)? Just way too much to pay.

Will be a bit interesting to see if Cleveland tries to turn that BKN pick into more help against the Warriors or as the start of a rebuild in case of LeBron leaving.

Just looking at what Boston has now, it's a big 3 of Kyrie/Hayward/Horford and hoping Brown/Tatum pan out. That's not a contender unless one of the young guns turns into a superstar, and that probably happens after Horford is finished falling off the cliff (at the same position as Hayward as well).
 
I just don't see it from Boston's side. Upgraded their PG spot imo (better deal, younger), but at the price of Crowder and a lotto pick in a stacked looking draft (Zizic as a throw in)? Just way too much to pay.

Will be a bit interesting to see if Cleveland tries to turn that BKN pick into more help against the Warriors or as the start of a rebuild in case of LeBron leaving.

Just looking at what Boston has now, it's a big 3 of Kyrie/Hayward/Horford and hoping Brown/Tatum pan out. That's not a contender unless one of the young guns turns into a superstar, and that probably happens after Horford is finished falling off the cliff (at the same position as Hayward as well).

It's wild, but they have the legit star power now. Their depth just took a major hit. If someone from the starting lineup goes down they are going to have a rough time patching holes because their bench is filled out with rookies.
 
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