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Las Vegas Summer League Game Thread: July 13th - Utah Jazz vs. Minnesota Timberwolves 7:30 PM PST

Revolution 9 said:
Hey neighbor!

Enjoying the rain today? Better than the heat wave a week or so ago eh?
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OMG yes. You saw my air conditioning thread in GD right? Holy **** it was miserable. Now it is getting warm here, and raining, so hot and muggy. Ugh. But it is still better than the flat out heat.



Hey we are coming down your way for Urlaub in a couple weeks. Might be we could swing over that way (will be in Nürnberg and München, going to Neuschwanstein and such). PM me if you're up for a short get-together.
 
Hey guys, ya shouda been there. I went to a lecture on race relations last night and a basketball game broke out!

Lol...
 
ONE LOVE said:
He has an above average dribbling and passing skills compared to the average PFs in the league already at this age.
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This.
Still gonna need to make shots to be good though.
 
ONE LOVE said:
No sweat White Choc, my bad for leading the discussion that way :)


Here's Lyles' line for today FYI:
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You did nothing wrong when you mentioned the African American announcer.

It was all the whiny lil bitches that can't handle someone using the term African American that ****ed up this thread
 
Cy said:
Dude, I already said I don't care about the term "Redskins" they could be called the Washington "Native Americans" and I would still feel weird about it. You just don't name a sports team after a group of people you nearly wiped out. Just a big no-no in my book.

Like have you taken a history class? We kind of ****ed the Native Americans in the ***.
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What's wrong with ****ing people in the ***?
Homophobic much bro?
 
Cy said:
Dude, I already said I don't care about the term "Redskins" they could be called the Washington "Native Americans" and I would still feel weird about it. You just don't name a sports team after a group of people you nearly wiped out. Just a big no-no in my book.

Like have you taken a history class? We kind of ****ed the Native Americans in the ***.
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At first, it was the diseases. The lack of immunity. A huge % of Native Americans died from disease before Europeans even settled in. When the Pilgrims landed, and when the Puritans arrived in the Boston area, they found nothing but abandoned villages. The entire Massachusett tribe wiped out by something. Smallpox, measles, who knows. Squanto returned to New England to find his tribe no longer existed. European fishermen did that. The Portuguese were fishing off North America even before Columbus set sail, and bringing their diseases with them. The first really major war between Europeans and Native Americans in what is now the US was New England's King Philip's War, 1675-76. As they had learned in the earlier Pequot War(1637), the English practiced something that appalled the natives, namely total war, burn entire villages, kill every last man, woman, and child. In the attack on the Pequot Fort in 1637, when Narragansett warriors who allied with the English saw what the English were doing, they either fired their guns in the air, or left. Murdering women and the elderly was not part of the game plan when native fought native.
 
fishonjazz said:
The term "lumberjack" is racist
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Don't take what I say so literally. However, even the word Lumberjack can be a stereotype. If it offends and u keep using it knowing full well how they feel about it, then yes. I suppose it can be racist.

If al Native Americans thought the name redskins was a sign of honor, would it still be racist?


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Thee jazz fan said:
If al Native Americans thought the name redskins was a sign of honor, would it still be racist?


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In the world we live in today? Yes, some one of a different race or culture would find it offensive.

Literally anything anyone says will probably be offensive to someone somewhere these days
 
Hey, how about Trey Lyles? I thought he looked better. Still has a ways to go, especially with his shot, but I think some of that is just confidence. Cunningham has looked good in spots. Even Motum had his moments. Would have been a very fun game to watch if the TWolves had Wiggins/LaVine and the Jazz had Exum/Hood. And yes, I do think Redskins is a derogatory term.
 
Red said:
At first, it was the diseases. The lack of immunity. A huge % of Native Americans died from disease before Europeans even settled in. When the Pilgrims landed, and when the Puritans arrived in the Boston area, they found nothing but abandoned villages. The entire Massachusett tribe wiped out by something. Smallpox, measles, who knows. Squanto returned to New England to find his tribe no longer existed. European fishermen did that. The Portuguese were fishing off North America even before Columbus set sail, and bringing their diseases with them. The first really major war between Europeans and Native Americans in what is now the US was New England's King Philip's War, 1675-76. As they had learned in the earlier Pequot War(1637), the English practiced something that appalled the natives, namely total war, burn entire villages, kill every last man, woman, and child. In the attack on the Pequot Fort in 1637, when Narragansett warriors who allied with the English saw what the English were doing, they either fired their guns in the air, or left. Murdering women and the elderly was not part of the game plan when native fought native.
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That may be true in this case, but my reading of history is quite different. Natives (or at least some natives or tribes of natives) often killed, and even scalped women and children, in addition to the men during raids on settlements or during other conflicts. Just one example, the Deerfield raid in 1704 during Queen Anne's war.
 
I miss the game last night, so I hop on here to get a recap and this is the thread that has transpired? Remember this is supposed to be a Jazz thread. If you want to argue with each other take it to general discussion and stop ruining what should be a game thread.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
That may be true in this case, but my reading of history is quite different. Natives (or at least some natives or tribes of natives) often killed, and even scalped women and children, in addition to the men during raids on settlements or during other conflicts. Just one example, the Deerfield raid in 1704 during Queen Anne's war.
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Also, pressing conquered tribes into slavery was quite common. Women were taken as trophies.
 
fishonjazz said:
In the world we live in today? Yes, some one of a different race or culture would find it offensive.

Literally anything anyone says will probably be offensive to someone somewhere these days
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U misunderstood. I was making a point, that if a stereotype offends wether it's the N word or lumberjack, it's racist. Was probably a bad analogy.


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