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LDS Church fined for contributions to Prop 8!! HA!

Sir, Jesus Christ, you are a hack of epic proportions.

Wasn't mankind's persecution of Jesus Christ bad enough the first time?!?!

I know that many people expect the Resurrection to be a massive event where the heavens open up and Jesus comes down on a grand chariot... but in this day and age Jesus probably realizes that many people are indoors, enjoying the A/C, and will just think the strange noise outside is just another drive-by. Therefore, it seems like the internet would be a GREAT place to make his second coming!
 
Yea because a sex trade industry is a legal business....you're a ginormous idiot.

lol... so are you arguing that state legislature / federal congress > god's word?

What about in the Netherlands? Sex trade is legal... If the Miller's sex trade profits came from their business in the Netherlands, is it fine to support the church with? I mean... It's legal there...
 
Sir, Jesus Christ, you are a hack of epic proportions.
Vinylone, I know I can't win you over with miracles or answers to prayers. I can't swoon you with fancy King James English. You are a man of science. But what if I were to tell you that... I can make you taller?

Just give it some thought.
 
Vinylone, I know I can't win you over with miracles or answers to prayers. I can't swoon you with fancy King James English. You are a man of science. But what if I were to tell you that... I can make you taller?

Just give it some thought.

Jesus, just so you know, you died for your own sins...not mine.
 
lol... so are you arguing that state legislature / federal congress > god's word?

What about in the Netherlands? Sex trade is legal... If the Miller's sex trade profits came from their business in the Netherlands, is it fine to support the church with? I mean... It's legal there...

The church believes in free agency, sex trade goes against someone's free agency.
 
The church believes in free agency, sex trade goes against someone's free agency.

Its the only thing thats perfectly legal to give away, but once you slap a price tag on it... it becomes a felony.(ya that's an old George Carlin get-up...)
 
I meant voluntary prostitution... I'm pretty sure kidnapping and rape are illegal everywhere

I could care less about how you pay your tithing. What caught my eye, and the reason I decided to chime in, were your frequent references comparing your choices to those of the Miller group. If you were justifying your stock portfolio based on it being similar to theirs, then fine, not a second thought crosses my mind... but you are justifying your own spiritual and religious choices based on their choices.

Just incase you forgot, the Miller's are financial tycoons, not prophets!

This logic reminded me of an old proverb I once heard: If all your friends jumped off a tall building, would you jump to?
 
I meant voluntary prostitution... I'm pretty sure kidnapping and rape are illegal everywhere

I could care less about how you pay your tithing. What caught my eye, and the reason I decided to chime in, were your frequent references comparing your choices to those of the Miller group. If you were justifying your stock portfolio based on it being similar to theirs, then fine, not a second thought crosses my mind... but you are justifying your own spiritual and religious choices based on their choices.

Just incase you forgot, the Miller's are financial tycoons, not prophets!

This logic reminded me of an old proverb I once heard: If all your friends jumped off a tall building, would you jump to?

You're thinking that I was justifying my paying tithing because the Millers pay tithing on their total sales at the ESA which would include alchohol.

I was only giving them as an EXAMPLE that everyone would understand.

The same example would be for a Mormon restuarant owner that sells drinks.....or a Mormon gas station/grocery owner that sells beer or cigs. An example would be Macey's here in Utah.

So I am sorry that you misunderstood what I was saying. I forgive you.
 
How far removed is your wife from the tribe? This is a lifelong thing as long as the Casino is still running?

She is 1/4. Yes its lifelong and our money doubles when she turns 50.

hey, there's an article in yesterday's WSJ that reminded me of this, it's kinda interesting

https://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704525704575341310022442270.html

With a mid-July deadline looming for a big payment to its lenders, the Indian tribe that runs the nation's largest casino is in talks with banks and bondholders about how best to restructure more than $2 billion in debt that it can no longer afford.

The Mashantucket Pequot Tribal Nation, which owns and operates Foxwoods Resort Casino in Ledyard, Conn., wants bondholders to wipe out a significant portion of its roughly $1.3 billion in bond debt, in some cases paring the tribe's obligations by at least half, people familiar with the matter said....

...The talks have raised issues unique to Native American gambling that investors once dismissed, such as tribes' rights as sovereign nations. The talks also have broached questions about the way the Pequot tribe spends the income from its casino, which is the largest in the U.S. by space and gambling positions like slot machines....

...Over the years, investors paid little attention to the federal protections for tribes that can complicate relations with creditors. Tribes are sovereign nations and because they are the only ones that can operate casinos on tribal land, lenders can't foreclose on the assets and sell them off as they would do with other defaulting borrowers. Nor can the tribe file for bankruptcy, according to most analysts.

In addition, the Pequots, like some other tribes, use proceeds from the casino to fund a fully functioning government and society, including a post office, police force and community center. The tribe also pays out dividend-like checks—known as "distribution" or "incentive" payments—to its members from the casino's revenue.

Those individual payments have totaled as much as $120,000 for some members, according to some estimates, and became something of a lightning rod in restructuring negotiations....

...this topic has sure taken some intersting twists and turns :-D
 
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