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Let's rehash the Derrick Fisher controversy

I don't care that he left, or that he went to the Lakers. What I do care about is that Utah fans got labeled as classless for booing. That's what bugged me. Because the media didn't tell the whole story. They just made it seem like we are all a bunch of uncaring a-holes.
 
Never quite understood why the couldn't work out a trade with the Lakers, Knicks, or Cleveland (which was also a possible destination for the retinal blastoma treatment), rather than completely give him away. At the time, the Lakers had Jordan Farmar, Brian Cook, and Ronny Turiaff who would have been good assets for the Jazz for the following season.
 
NotDeadYet said:
I always wondered if Larry Miller contacted the commish when all this came down. I had no problem with Fisher getting out of his contract, but due to the unusual circumstances here the commish SHOULD have been involved from the get-go to put some stipulations on Fisher playing in the NBA. AT LEAST he should have been barred from signing with another team that season. I think everyone involved and the media too got caught up in the emotion of the situation and kinda forgot the NBA is still a business. This situation was flat out poorly handled from that standpoint.
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Why?

Everyone's been speculating on Fisher's motives, but why not look at the Jazz' motives? They got out of a multi-year bad contract for free. No buyout. No losing draft picks. Nothing. Why should have there been stipulations? It was an unprecedented move because both parties wanted it. Jazz spin it as a gesture of good will toward Fisher, while they get both a PR boost and money to spend, while Fisher gets to sign anywhere he wants based on the needs of his daughter.
 
Man, Lied isn't even that hot. She looks like a girl who goes to the tanning both once a week and wears 50$ of makeup per week.
 
margodydek said:
Until I walk a day in his shoes (being a father of a little girl who has a rare form of cancer in her eye), I won't spend a second trying to judge him.
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Ummmm, you do know his daughter got treatment in New York, Fisher asked out of this contract so he could be with her then turned right around and signed with LA.
 
I must confess what we all already know. We were not really in the loop about this whole situation. Constructing the " Truth" now is almost impossible. My memories and impressions correlate very strongly with the initiator of this thread though. However, I would not boo Derek Fisher or any other player for leaving this team. But, I did believe (perhaps wrongly) at the time that their was something very odd and shady about the whole situation. I heard the press conference also (the initial one) and was definitely under the impression from his own words that NOWHERE in the country could his daughter get the proper care but in New York.
This is why i hated having him on our team from the start. All these fans from California have grand delusions about who they are because of the success of the Lakers. There is no reflected glory when YOUR team wins a championship. They won it and it means something important to them (may this never change) As a fan we have achieved exactly nothing except being a fan. If, we should be so fortunate to have this happen for our Jazz someday( a championship), lets try to remember that the players and the organization are the victors. We only hoped and cheered for their success. Be happy for their happiness.
As far as booing Deron, please don't!! He was traded, he did not quit us. Karl was the only guy other than Derek Fisher to QUIT us, and it still hurts. That's why the Fisher situation is so emotional for Jazz fans.

I know, too many words.
 
YB85 said:
I think Larry Miller felt really burned until he remembered that by Fisher agreeing to a $0 buyout, Miller was out from under what was a horrible contract.

For the record, the signing with the Lakers raised my eyebrows, but didn't bug me that much. It just consolidated my hate because I hate Fisher almost as much as I hate Kobe, and having him on the Jazz was definitely sleeping with the enemy. I didn't boo him for signing with the Lakers. I booed him because he is and always will be a Laker.

And I hope his daughter is okay. And he and Kobe tests positive for steroids after they're caught injecting each other in the *** in a bathroom.
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Umm, I don't think it is that type of injection.
 
BluesRocker said:
I am sure that it has been talked about at lengths around here, and I know how mad it makes the seasoned posters around here to talk about old subjects. But since there are a lot of new people and this is the nature of a message board, here we go.

There is all the this talk about whether to boo or not to boo Deron, or former players. And I have heard other posters in here bring up the Fisher booing.
I take the position that we shouldn't boo Deron, and it would be B.S. to do so. But Fisher is a different story. Now, to an outsider it may seem that Jazz fans are messed up for booing him for leaving. And it would be if he didn't leave the way he did.

Here is my version of what happened and I would like to see what the rest of you think.

I remember the day when the press conference was held for Fisher to announce that he was asking out of his contract so he could care for his daughter. A lot of people in the main stream media I bet missed this. I think that they would have a different opion if they heard what was said. During the press conference Fisher had everybody sold, including Larry Miller, that he believed his career was over. He was asked repeatedly if he thought he would play again and he made it clear that it was doubtful. He claimed that the only care he could get was in New York and New York alone. And that he was going to need to be with his daughter during that time. He claimed that he could not adhere to the demands of the traveling that being in the nba requires. He had Larry Miller in tears and just about everyone else at that press conference. I remember really feeling bad for the man at the time. It was a very emotional press conference. Heck, he even had the commisioner convinced that this was necessary.

Literally three weeks later he was signing with the Lakers!

HuH?

What?

Derrick I thought you were done. And what about being with your daughter? L.A. isn't closer to New York than Utah.

That is what Jazz fans were thinking!

I think that Jazz fans really felt burned by this. And so did Larry Miller. To me that man used his daughter's health problems to get back to the Lakers and he knew what he was doing. His daughter wasn't miraculously cured and nothing could have changed three weeks later. So that is why he gets booed around here. Not because Utah fans are terrible people. I hate that the media didn't do their homework on this.
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What?
 
My hatred of Fisher isn't the Laker DNA or the soap opera, but mostly comes from Jerry insisting on playing him at the 2 when he couldn't defend the position or shoot. That said, I loved him as much I could love anybody when he made that shot in the playoffs after flying in from New York. But I was more than happy for the Do Over on the contract just so Jerry wouldn't have kept finding a way to play him 30 minutes a night the next 2 years.
 
ncoloradojazz said:
You mormons talk all about family but i guess if you aint mormon you dont matter right? LA has better medical hospitals then salt lake city. Get over it.Geez
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Yes, welcome to the official site of Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Everyone on here is a Mormon, and everyone who likes the Jazz is a Mormon. Substitute the word Jew or Black for Mormon and see how vitriolic your comment is. Wonderful power freedom is, isn't it?
 
NotDeadYet said:
I always wondered if Larry Miller contacted the commish when all this came down. I had no problem with Fisher getting out of his contract, but due to the unusual circumstances here the commish SHOULD have been involved from the get-go to put some stipulations on Fisher playing in the NBA. AT LEAST he should have been barred from signing with another team that season. I think everyone involved and the media too got caught up in the emotion of the situation and kinda forgot the NBA is still a business. This situation was flat out poorly handled from that standpoint.
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Ummm, you mean the same commish who rejected a Gasol to LA trade that actually had LA giving up more assets, then approved the deal when it was reworked to include an assistant coach from another team? The same commish that had rejected many of those types of trades in the past (i.e. with "unofficially retired" players)? And the same commish who basically held a gun to the Clippers head this year to force them to trade for CP3. The Clips who will be left with NADA when CP3 walks across the Staples center into the other locker room as a FA in 2 years. Stern is the most corrupt commissioner in pro sports.
 
GlassEater said:
Ummm, you mean the same commish who rejected a Gasol to LA trade that actually had LA giving up more assets, then approved the deal when it was reworked to include an assistant coach from another team? The same commish that had rejected many of those types of trades in the past (i.e. with "unofficially retired" players)? And the same commish who basically held a gun to the Clippers head this year to force them to trade for CP3. The Clips who will be left with NADA when CP3 walks across the Staples center into the other locker room as a FA in 2 years. Stern is the most corrupt commissioner in pro sports.
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Stern's going to force Paul to do that, too, eh?
 
I have always been curious, how many Lakers games did he miss to attend to his daughter's treatment? Anyone know?
 
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