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Snowboy

Snowboy

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Clearly, things are not going well for the Jazz at the moment.

Do the stats paint a clear picture of what's going wrong or do they lie?

FG% 6th
3PT% 26th
FT% 6th
Off Reb 21st
Def Reb 22nd
APG 27th
Turnovers 18th
Steals 23rd
Blocks 4th
Pts For 11th
Pts Ag 24th

Points per game:

Jefferson 19.1
Millsap 15.8
Hayward 9.5
Miles 9.1
Harris 8.8
Favors 8.1
Howard 7.4
Bell 7.4
Burks 5.8
Kanter 5.2

Assists:

Watson 4.5
Harris 4.4
Hayward 3.2
Tinsley 1.8
Bell 1.1
Miles 1.1
Howard 1.0

Rebounds:

Jefferson 9.3
Millsap 9.3
Kanter 5.3
Favors 5.0
Howard 3.1
Hayward 2.8
Watson 2.1
Miles 2.0


Discuss (if you're still awake)
 
Wait a minute.... How can the Jazz be ranked 21st in Off Rebound and 22nd in Def Rebounding with two bubble all-stars starting at pf and Center, and with the best rebounding rookie and the most athletic bigman of the 2010 draft coming off the bench ? I thought they were grabbing all the available rebounds and that was the jazz pg, sg and sf average a combined 5 rpg.
 
mellow said:
Wait a minute.... How can the Jazz be ranked 21st in Off Rebound and 22nd in Def Rebounding with two bubble all-stars starting at pf and Center, and with the best rebounding rookie and the most athletic bigman of the 2010 draft coming off the bench ? I thought they were grabbing all the available rebounds and that was the jazz pg, sg and sf average a combined 5 rpg.
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Keep in mind that Rebound numbers are inflated when a team plays good defensively. Id imagine that a team like Chicago, or Miami is among the best rebounding teams in the NBA.
 
Snowboy said:
FG% 6th
3PT% 26th
FT% 6th
Off Reb 21st
Def Reb 22nd
APG 27th
Turnovers 18th
Steals 23rd
Blocks 4th
Pts For 11th
Pts Ag 24th
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Trying to figure out where you got these stats. They're amazingly incorrect.
 
GVC said:
Trying to figure out where you got these stats. They're amazingly incorrect.
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LOL - my bad, stupid yahoo stats defaulted to 'opposition stats' for some reason and I hadn't spotted it.

*snowboy goes back to drawing board with tail firmly between legs* :D
 
You may want to get rebounding rate, available at basketball reference. Pace matters.
 
GVC said:
Trying to figure out where you got these stats. They're amazingly incorrect.
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LOL - my bad, stupid yahoo stats defaulted to 'opposition stats' for some reason and I hadn't spotted it.

*snowboy goes back to drawing board with tail firmly between legs* :D

Edit - FWIW I think the player stats are right. If not I may go find a tall building to jump off
 
Snowboy said:
LOL - my bad, stupid yahoo stats defaulted to 'opposition stats' for some reason and I hadn't spotted it.

*snowboy goes back to drawing board with tail firmly between legs* :D

Edit - FWIW I think the player stats are right. If not I may go find a tall building to jump off
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Haha im quit sure the player stats are correct as well. No need to fret- to happens to the best of us :)
 
This looks more like it. Especially the horrible 3 point stat :(



FG 10th
3P% 29th
FT 15th
Off Reb 9th
Def Reb 21st
Assists 17th
Turnover 6th
Steals 14th
Blocks 3rd
Points for 11th
Points against 24th*
 
dalamon said:
Keep in mind that Rebound numbers are inflated when a team plays good defensively. Id imagine that a team like Chicago, or Miami is among the best rebounding teams in the NBA.
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A bit off topic but this reminded me there is always the exception. I remember last year the Jazz for the first part of the season (when they got off to their hot start) were near the tops of FG% against but near the bottom on defensive rebounds (giving up offensive rebounds).
 
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