Lock Her Up?

[Stars Fan]

I leave you with this then!






WOW YOU LOOK STUPID NOW DONT YOU!

checkmate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dutch
The key to understanding what he was saying is that the owning agency had determined that the emails contained information that was classified at the time. They determined that retroactively. The emails were not MARKED with the classification designation. She did not take an email marked Top Secret, and send it out or respond to it. I admitted her mistake in using the personal server for state department business. That was her responsibility as the leader at the top of the chain to ensure that secrets remained secret.

Much like Ivanka should not be using an insecure email account for White House business. The loose handling of sensitive information is same problem.

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[Red]

and Hannity wasn't the source of Seth Rich being the informant -- Julian Assange was the source.

Well, here's the thing. Nobody ran with this claim more then Hannity, even after Fox themselves repudiated it. And I have a bias here. Namely, if Hannity is running with this, it can only be because it removes blame from the Russians and therefore calls into question the possibility of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian "active measures". For myself, over and above the ability to pick this claim apart piece by piece, Hannity is just Trump's personal "state media supporter", a Trump boot licker. So that's reason enough to seriously doubt the veracity of the claims involved.

 

[Getting Traded]

Well, here's the thing. Nobody ran with this claim more then Hannity, even after Fox themselves repudiated it. And I have a bias here. Namely, if Hannity is running with this, it can only be because it removes blame from the Russians and therefore calls into question the possibility of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian "active measures". For myself, over and above the ability to pick this claim apart piece by piece, Hannity is just Trump's personal "state media supporter", a Trump boot licker. So that's reason enough to seriously doubt the veracity of the claims involved.

I agree with you on that. But I campaigned for Bernie and was following the turn of events with the primary very closely. Did you know that Bernie endorsed Hillary two days after the Seth Rich murder? Also, Bernie seemed to be shell-shocked around that time, which coincided with the California primary. For instance, in California, where Bernie drew crowds estimated by police upwards of 60,000 in San Francisco, Hillary only drew enough to fill a high school gym. And there were suspicions of fraud there, as there were instructions to table the votes of Independent voters (most who voted for Bernie). There were not only suspicions of fraud in earlier primaries, but concrete evidence of it, as in Chicago voting machine auditors found that the machines were hacked and that typically machines that showed Bernie with a 30-40 vote surplus were reversed to show that margin in favor of Hillary. I believe the whole Russian thing was / is a disinformation program to lead people away from the actual fraud that was perpetrated by the DNC, which was actually, and still is, part of the Clinton machine (Schumer and Pelosi in leadership roles). This is not to say that Trump wasn't cozy with Russia and that they also might've played a part in his election. And did you know that Clinton had placed journalists in at least one major network, CBS News, who had worked on her campaign in 2015? There may have been others. The Clintons are so sleazy and dishonest, and that is not to say Trump isn't. But it goes to show how corrupt our system has become and how misled we have been in electing our Presidents. Greg Palast has been on this since the Gore-Bush election when Bush defrauded Al Gore in Florida and Ohio, as well.

Check this article out:

 

[Stoked]

Well, here's the thing. Nobody ran with this claim more then Hannity, even after Fox themselves repudiated it. And I have a bias here. Namely, if Hannity is running with this, it can only be because it removes blame from the Russians and therefore calls into question the possibility of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian "active measures". For myself, over and above the ability to pick this claim apart piece by piece, Hannity is just Trump's personal "state media supporter", a Trump boot licker. So that's reason enough to seriously doubt the veracity of the claims involved.

Good call on Hannity. Guys a propaganda mouthpiece. That’s it.

 

[babe]

One thing that I don't need any "sources" for is this: The "ends" of the political rainbow use almost the same information base. When I was carpooling/ridesharing with my devout Marxist buddy, one thing we had in common, that made discussions of political stuff actually productive.... we both had sisters in the John Birch Society.

When I ran across Marxist revolutionaries in the bundoks…. well, whether in Manila or the Huk areas in Central Luzon, I found it easy to discuss international politics with them, and enjoyed what they could tell me about the history of their own land. They named the same names and decried the same actions of "Mainstream" US and International politicians who had the power over our destinies, more or less.

So anyway, Bernie's boys and some conservatives can share some of the facts that've been sunk by our MSM because, well, it's the game our folks play. I found the same thing with Lyndon LaRouche people and, say, the Tea Baggers. When there is some actual facts that just don't get air in our media, it makes all kinds of people wonder what is going on.

At any rate, I don't think any players who have danced to the music of our most powerful influencers will ever go to jail. The most we should even hope for is to replace them with less compliant and more responsible and accountable "public servants" who actually think we matter.....

Another curious fact in my experience..... when you get to know the Marxist movers and shakers who really matter, they are almost all folks who've been served on silver trays and fed with silver spoons from birth. That is one fact I advance in my assertion that Marxism, in practical terms, is a lie. No reality in it all. It is and has always been a sort of opiate for the masses worse than any religion ever was. You sing nice songs, talk about being comrades, but you are ruled with an iron fist by the sons of megabillionaires….. My Marxist true believer calls them "State Capitalists". Statists.

I believe Mormonism, like the Pilgrims, were a sort of pious "Christian" communists with ideals of a future paradise of communal equality. The early Christians, from the catacombs of Rome, were full of the idea of caring for one another and giving their all to help their brothers. The top-down leadership "Christians " once secured to the power and wealth of it all, always appears after people are complacent and willing to just be told stuff, and to stop thinking for themselves.

It is curious to me, with information from personal sources in China and a lot of other countries as well, that the Chinese elite send their kids to all the top universities around the world, but especially to BYU. They like the harmonious culture and high personal standards of Mormonism..... and the top down model of leadership that allows a few men to actually hold sway in significant ways over huge populations.... compliance being the chief essential virtue for "belonging" to the culture....

Me, I'm a rabble rouser just trying to find something different to say.....who knows.... I work hard at it, maybe a few things I say will find someone who will actually start checking out these wild speculative ideas....

I don't think Thriller will ever listen, though.... and a few others....

People who really care about ordinary people are my choice for friends.

 

[babe]

Good call on Hannity. Guys a propaganda mouthpiece. That’s it.

I think the smear on Hannity is brainless, factless. Sure, MSM... even Fox....play fast and furious with their story lines, and sometimes reverse themselves to please their management and owners. But it's worth thinking about before you just believe what these kinds of media sources are saying..... Liars typically have to change their stories..... frequently.

As one who has followed Hannity's program more than I do any other, because of the time it is aired.... and who started out not liking him much because he was imo a RINO hack..... trying to take the middle path..... well....

It's just this: The Russians, of course, try to get in good with any kind of political movement in every country, so far as they can, on their budget and their contacts. But they are nothing, really, anymore, in comparison to the Chinese as players on these stages. The socialist techno/infrastructure enthusiasts of the Lyndon LaRouche group are always showcasing their visits with the Russians and Chinese.... and any other government with officials who will smile and invite them to come talk for any reason. These folks all see the UN as a good thing, as well.... and are pleased to have channels for action via NGOs or any committee, or seats at any conference that will have them....

What is bizarre is the DNC accusations far over the top against Trump when in every way they've sold us down the river as a nation in favor of their personally-enriching and corrupt dealings.

That's why I criticize Trump for some aspects of his deal-making and trade negotiations with other national players. He has a cabinet member who has actual business interests in common with the Chinese..... R majority Senate leader Mitch McConnel.... his wife Elaine Chou.... . Since Mitch got taken in with this payola, he has consistently been soft on Chinese "collusion".

But Elaine's cashcow Chinese compromises are at least an order of magnitude less than Hillary's and Bill's. It's all for the grand cause of equalized leading nations in this world, and the end of "American Exceptionalism" and American hegemony or influence abroad. Makes management pleased as punch. That slogan MAGA is a punch in their faces. They really hate it.

Hannity has been consistent. He has done his own research for this position, relying on some very good sources for his statements.

Hillary paid for the "dossier" made up by some Russians, and routed the information with some skill to manipulate key FBI officials and the FISA court itself, to issue the warrants..... which gathered information on Trump and faithfully reported it all back to Hillary.

Liars often accuse others of their own misdeeds to try to divert attention from their own guilt.

 

[babe]

This appears to be one of the more reprehensible conspiracy theories driven by Fox, and Hannity in particular. Certainly did not do Rich's family any good. Fox has served as the incubation chamber for quite a few baseless conspiracy theories in recent years. The truth is the one major news outlet that Trump does not single out as promoters of "fake news" is the one news outlet most responsible for "fake news". Just one crackpot conspiracy theory after another in recent years. It's a weak mind that allows itself to be taken in by garbage of this sort. Yet millions apparently have been unable to use the discriminating faculty of their intellect to see through this nonsense. I suppose it provides some sort of comfort to believe one has things figured out by embracing these conspiracy theories, but it is a form of surrender of one's critical thinking faculties. What a shame...

https://www.vox.com/2018/3/23/17129414/seth-rich-fox-news-lawsuit-conspiracy-theories

So I followed the link, read it all..... and some other stuff about it.

I remember about two times Hannity talked about this, but I only get his program one or two times a week.... more than Levin, more than Rush, about the same as Wilkow. But all it ever amounted to was saying it would mean somebody besides Russia was the source. He had Asange on his program, saying it wasn't the Russians.

So Hannity goes over certain topics and focuses on them, and a lot of dead leads are ditched. I don't know what he things about Rich now.

I think China, Pakistan, Iran, India.... maybe three dozen interested foreign officials found their way on the DNC site anjd even more on to Hillary's server..... She's a true open borders internationalist willing to sale anything we have..... anything she has access to that is not wholly her own....to anyone with some cash.

Seth Rich's parents are loons in the first place, fishing for cash in the swamp.

I wouldn't blame any Bern for wondering what happened.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

Well, here's the thing. Nobody ran with this claim more then Hannity, even after Fox themselves repudiated it. And I have a bias here. Namely, if Hannity is running with this, it can only be because it removes blame from the Russians and therefore calls into question the possibility of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian "active measures". For myself, over and above the ability to pick this claim apart piece by piece, Hannity is just Trump's personal "state media supporter", a Trump boot licker. So that's reason enough to seriously doubt the veracity of the claims involved.

How insane is it to live in a world where possibly the country's largest ranting and raving tool helped get someone elected and is now the face of that campaign? Rush, GB, Levin, they didn't ever endorse anyone per se, seemingly out of respecting the platform they preach, but that dude is in knees deep with the establishment. I hated him before, Rush and GB are entertainers with a philosophy to sell, but that guy? Complete *******. And then he gets paired up with our Dump.

Good hell, why couldn't we elect a respectable candidate. Stupid Romney should have thrown away his ambition and fake face so he could be the current leader of the free world.

 

[babe]

So I got to thinking..... maybe should enlarge on the subject of Seth Rich's parents. What I noticed is that their lawsuit is aimed at the grand social justice cause of censorship. They don't just want cash from Fox, they want cash from everyone. Their lawsuit is framed as a complaint against all sources of "fake news" about all possible issues. They want to fundamentally transform the world to make damn sure no one ever says anything unless first sanctioned, anointed, and selected as a spokeperson for the correct view on the subject by authoritative, unquestionable sources. They're not asking for a Pres Exec order, or an Act of Congress. They just want the judge to order this fundamental transformation of America.

What they are suing for is absolute censorship.

nah, their son is peanuts. They want everything.

"The Riches aren’t just trying to stop the conspiracy theories about their family — they’re trying to prevent conspiracy theories from taking root in the first place, ever again" per the vox link in Red's post above.

So that's why I said they're loons.

 

[Getting Traded]

So I got to thinking..... maybe should enlarge on the subject of Seth Rich's parents. What I noticed is that their lawsuit is aimed at the grand social justice cause of censorship. They don't just want cash from Fox, they want cash from everyone. Their lawsuit is framed as a complaint against all sources of "fake news" about all possible issues. They want to fundamentally transform the world to make damn sure no one ever says anything unless first sanctioned, anointed, and selected as a spokeperson for the correct view on the subject by authoritative, unquestionable sources.

What they are suing for is absolute censorship.

nah, their son is peanuts. They want everything.

"The Riches aren’t just trying to stop the conspiracy theories about their family — they’re trying to prevent conspiracy theories from taking root in the first place, ever again" per the vox link in Red's post above.

So that's why I said they're loons.

They have been compromised by the powers like Marina Oswald was. I don't know how many people here know this but her father was high-level KGB. This is not to say the Lee was a Soviet agent -- he was a counterspy. It was in the best interests of the opponents of Khrushchev who was secretly negotiating an end to the Cold War with Kennedy to have JKF killed. In fact, a year later, Khrushchev was ousted.

 

[babe]

They have been compromised by the powers like Marina Oswald was. I don't know how many people here know this but her father was high-level KGB. This is not to say the Lee was a Soviet agent -- he was a counterspy. It was in the best interests of the opponents of Khrushchev who was secretly negotiating an end to the Cold War with Kennedy to have JKF killed. In fact, a year later, Khrushchev was ousted.

So I got interested in this and looked around a bit on the Webz. I found this:

https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/mystery-marina-oswald

also of note, Marina, remarried and living in Texas, has flipped her testimony to the Warren Commission and now says she doesn't believe Oswald shot JFK. She decided this after reading a bunch of stuff about it.

Jerome Corsi is dissed by mainstreamers but I find something in common with him. His background coming from life association with some of the people he talks about. At a higher level. His real life knowledge is about the likes of Rockefeller clansmen. Me, I only know a little from marriages. People who knew some lesser folks.

Everybody has a point of view, a set of facts they can access quite reliably as experience, or study. People like Mitt and Al Gore know who's who better, but have a commitment to the "The Way Things Are". Then we have the professional know-nothings who snarl at every bit of knowledge anybody can have that isn't provided, gratuitously, by the MSM.

A smart, pretty, young Russian woman with "connections" usually wouldn't just hop onboard with a no-account foreigner with no material means and no real job.

And a very thick KGB dossier like the one on Oswald would be unlikely if he were one of their own projects, I mean, that they would ever discuss.....

But here they are, releasing a lot of their files, full of arguments that he wasn't a good shooter, couldn't hit a deer, and such. hmmm..... pretty convincing. NOT. Convenient for them, not convincing to me.

But the widely held and credulously believed assumptions at large in the world, that the KGB, CIA, MI-6, and other intelligence agencies run by globalists are fully independent and contrary operations, has recently been demonstrably false in the Trump dossier saga.

So here we are, Americans, with our CIA being run by a communist, Brennan.... in cahoots with another communist community organizer steeped in "Imaginative" ideology (John Lennon's "Imagine"), and we have an ideological communist worker-bee ideologue married to a Rockefeller son (illegitimate son, that is) who was without any reason rocketed to political usefulness from being a relative nobody.... running now for her own "turn" at being Prez of the USA under Rockefeller Club protocol...… having the clarity of reason to get Britain's intelligence chief to set up for our FBI a paid job for the Russian intelligence officers, all so our FISA courts could authorize surveillance on her political opponent.

nah.

We've been a grand new order of management for longer than we know. We just aren't being told how it all works.

I noted from my little searches today, that Life Magazine got Marina out of reach for the public and reporters almost instanteously, and that our security officers kept her well away from anyone who could ask the wrong questions from minute zero. She also got funds, one way or another, and stepped up in style for the rest of her life.

The New York Times took charge of making her out to be a sympathetic little lady who knew nothing.

And, per usual, back to the thread topic. Our management doesn't really send it's public front personnel to jail. They get to go somewhere outta sight in style.

well..... if they stay loyal. otherwise.... even bigwigs can die.

In America, nobodys could still have "Freedom of Speech" if they want to rant and ramble their pathetic ignorance and suspicions until about now, but "responsible leaders" lost it long ago.