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Durrrr said:
Crazy how a player can get hyped up and cause GMs that should know better to make a bad decision.


I still remember when Biyombo had that individual workout.

Someone said Biyombo "just went 1 on 1 against air and lost"

Lmao.
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I think it might have been this video.

Painful to watch even today (he missed most shots other than dunks):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDqJGJwAU0M
 
I liked Byombo. I was wrong. I was thinking maybe he would fit better with the Jazz. I once also thought Okafor was a better pick than Howard and that Oden was better than Durant. Guess internet scouting isn't as good as we believe.
 
Rule #1 - don't get caught up in a player nobody wanted.

Bismack played for crappy Euro teams. Kanter was recruited by Calipari.
 
Haha

This thread is awesome

Hotttnicckkk and pkm owning the likes of Numberica and Cy.

Thats why I love this place. You can always go pull up the stupid **** people said.

Ill admit I didnt know what to think about Kanter. I wasn't against picking him though. It was one of those you just leave up to the people who can get a closer look. I never wanted Byiombo though. That had bust written all over it. Nor did I want Brandon Knight. I thought his shot was funny looking and his movements a little weird. I did like Derrick Williams though. Oof.
 
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I still like Biyombo. And Kanter still hadn't played nearly any real basketball in nearly two seasons and it's still a gamble to think that that would have no impact on longterm development.

I've never said Kanter wouldn't get there and I've never said he wasn't talented. But if you guys want to get hung up on posts put in a vacuum, go nuts.
 
I think this thread just proves that no matter how big of a dick head you are when making your point, it doesn't mean you are right.
 
green said:
Rule #1 - don't get caught up in a player nobody wanted.

Bismack played for crappy Euro teams. Kanter was recruited by Calipari.
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*Good Euro teams at the highest level of competition outside of the NBA.
 
I also never said Biyombo would be a force offensively, either. Those workouts were terrible, if for no other reason than the idea that it would do him any favors as that was not his skill.
 
i was all over derrick williams.. just shows how hard it is to judge talent for what they will be in a situation that theyve never been in before
 
jope said:
i was all over derrick williams.. just shows how hard it is to judge talent for what they will be in a situation that theyve never been in before
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I was too, then I calmed. I couldn't figure out how he fit in with Millsap, and we knew (know) Millsap is good and players don't translate a lot of the time. And Williams measured out as substantially heavier and taller than most 3s and the Jazz already had too many 4s.
 
Durrrr said:
Crazy how a player can get hyped up and cause GMs that should know better to make a bad decision.


I still remember when Biyombo had that individual workout.

Someone said Biyombo "just went 1 on 1 against air and lost"

Lmao.
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Chad Ford said that I believe, classic.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I also never said Biyombo would be a force offensively, either. Those workouts were terrible, if for no other reason than the idea that it would do him any favors as that was not his skill.
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Rule #2 - You don't spend a lottery pick on a defensive player with ZERO offensive game.

That has NEVER panned out for a team. If I am wrong, tell me, but I can't think of a defensive lottery pick that changed the future of a team.

Heck, which rookies have made the biggest difference to their teams this last year? Barnes, and Lilliard, both very, very good offensive players. The top two picks were defensive players and they haven't changed anything for their teams.
 
jope said:
i was all over derrick williams.. just shows how hard it is to judge talent for what they will be in a situation that theyve never been in before
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Hasn't he been going off lately and rebounding like a mother lately, since Love got Hurt?
green said:
Rule #2 - You don't spend a lottery pick on a defensive player with ZERO offensive game.

That has NEVER panned out for a team. If I am wrong, tell me, but I can't think of a defensive lottery pick that changed the future of a team.

Heck, which rookies have made the biggest difference to their teams this last year? Barnes, and Lilliard, both very, very good offensive players. The top two picks were defensive players and they haven't changed anything for their teams.
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Kind of a small sample size. First I do agree with Lillard, but Barns hasn't exactly set the NBA on fire. Second... No rookie is making a difference on the Bobcats. I think MKG will be a very good player and one of the more coveted sf's when off his rookie contract, and Unibrow is not a one dimensional. He does have some offensive skills, but he is raw like Kanter, and Favors, just needs time to develop like most bigs.
 
green said:
Rule #2 - You don't spend a lottery pick on a defensive player with ZERO offensive game.

That has NEVER panned out for a team. If I am wrong, tell me, but I can't think of a defensive lottery pick that changed the future of a team.

Heck, which rookies have made the biggest difference to their teams this last year? Barnes, and Lilliard, both very, very good offensive players. The top two picks were defensive players and they haven't changed anything for their teams.
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Also as far as Lillard goes the Blazers still are about as good this year as last, Lillard is looking like rookie of the year but he hasn't changed The Blazers fortunes in the win loss column.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Also as far as Lillard goes the Blazers still are about as good this year as last, Lillard is looking like rookie of the year but he hasn't changed The Blazers fortunes in the win loss column.
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Interesting comment about Lillard. He seems to have all the tools to succeed, may be it takes time.
 
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