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What a Nancy. If he can't play center, cut him loose and we'll let Gobert play alongside Kanter. Jazz need a C, if Favors is going to be a ***** about it we don't need him.

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I thought he was always working out in Santa Barbara. Man I hope he isn't going to get lazy now that he has the new contract. I think eventually either Favors or Kanter are going to leave because both are PFs and don't want to play center.
 
To be honest I am loving what I am hearing. Can see some fire in Kanter, Hayward, Burks and Favors. Burke has been firey all season with his tweets and jabs at the pro tanking crowd.

Good boys. Be pissed about this year, be mad. Feed it all summer long. Hit the weights and court with those thoughts and images in your head. Use that to fuel you to get better and tighter as a group. Come back next year in shape, improved, hungry and with a chip on your shoulder. Time to put some attitude back into the Jazz and the arena.

Now the real work begins.

GO JAZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Perhaps if the price is right and he's willing and able to back up the 3 and 4. For what he offers, I just think the Jazz can draft that player at #23 who will have more upside and be considerably CHEAPER. Jazz need a real impact FA for $8-9M (like Atlanta got with Millsap), then backfill with their picks and vets near the minimum.


Kanter-Draft Pick-Evans
Favors-Gobert
Free Agent-Draft Pick (in some order)
Hayward-Burks
Burke-Neto-Garrett

That's 12 players, not counting Utah's 2nd round pick or guys like Murphy, Thomas, Clark, etc.

I won't argue the order here, as obviously Burks could start at the 2, with Hayward at the 3. And Kanter may or may not come off the bench. Some of that also depends on the pick: get Parker or Wiggins and maybe they start. Guys like Embiid or Aaron Gordon would likely come off the bench initially. Or Smart could replace Neto or Garrett. In any case, I think Lindsey will look to bring in a major asset either as a FA or via trade. He knows we don't just need aging vets to fill holes. Have to get a core 8; the remaining 6-7 are not that difficult to fill in after that.

I don't want any vets until we see what we get in the draft. I am going to scream if we draft Wiggins, Parker, Embiid or etc. and see them sit behind some player who is a year or two away from being out of the league. You want to build this team for the long haul and having as many young players playing is the only way to get better and have better chemistry.
 
Great, so we have delusional PF who does not wasn't to play center but dreams about having 25-15 averages. Out of curiosity when anybody last time averaged it?

The last one who averaged these kind of numbers was Mr. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in 1975-76.

Almost 40 years ago.

If he just give us 20/10 that would be enough and we would have our franchise player
 
Wonder what he meant by cemistry issues.

I don't think it is necessarily that they don't like each other but it might have more due to with not playing with each other. It takes time to build chemistry and is difficult when the Core5 rarely played together.
 
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Kanter: They say we are rebuilding - we are not winning a championship, so why not play the young guys?

WHAT? An NBA player thinking he should have received more minutes. There isn't a player in the league who doesn't think he got enough minutes.
 
Dennis Lindsey on Gordon Hayward: "I think he needs to have more fun." Something was wrong with Gordon all year long.
 
DL saying some nice ****!

via Tony Parks
"Derrick has to get outside of himself and get uncomfortable when taking leadership defensively from a communication stand point"

"told Gordon to learn how to have fun out there again. He has some great things going for him."

two huge points that were discussed around here. DL is growing on me again!
 
DL saying some nice ****!

via Tony Parks
"Derrick has to get outside of himself and get uncomfortable when taking leadership defensively from a communication stand point"

"told Gordon to learn how to have fun out there again. He has some great things going for him."

two huge points that were discussed around here. DL is growing on me again!

Why where you down on him? I think DL has had an excellent off season, draft and season this year. I look forward to what he does this year.
 
I like the DL talk, but it is just talk at this point.

He knows he can use Corbin as a scapegoat for everything that went wrong this season and he is going to use that to create optimism. I assume he didn't have much control over Corbin's rotations, but let's not forget that DL is the guy who failed to trade Marvin or Jefferson to force freed time for Kanter/Burks.
 
I like the DL talk, but it is just talk at this point.

He knows he can use Corbin as a scapegoat for everything that went wrong this season. I assume he didn't have much control over Corbin's rotations, but let's not forget that DL is the guy who failed to trade Marvin or Jefferson to force freed time for Kanter/Burks.

"Failed", you don't know what the trades were. I'd rather have not traded Marvin then get a terrible contract back and who knows, maybe corbin would have played the traded guy over the young guys still.
 
I like the DL talk, but it is just talk at this point.

He knows he can use Corbin as a scapegoat for everything that went wrong this season and he is going to use that to create optimism. I assume he didn't have much control over Corbin's rotations, but let's not forget that DL is the guy who failed to trade Marvin or Jefferson to force freed time for Kanter/Burks.

He also signed Lucas, Garrett, Thomas, Clark...drafted Burke and Gobert, and traded for Rush, Jefferson and Biedrins to land us a bunch of draft picks and keep our books in nice order to sign our players and retool the bench this year.

I'd say he has more than backed up his words with actions.
 
To be honest I am loving what I am hearing. Can see some fire in Kanter, Hayward, Burks and Favors. Burke has been firey all season with his tweets and jabs at the pro tanking crowd.

Good boys. Be pissed about this year, be mad. Feed it all summer long. Hit the weights and court with those thoughts and images in your head. Use that to fuel you to get better and tighter as a group. Come back next year in shape, improved, hungry and with a chip on your shoulder. Time to put some attitude back into the Jazz and the arena.

Now the real work begins.

GO JAZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stoked is killing it today.

Great post. I hope these guys are pissed off at the world right now. They need to eat, sleep and breathe TEAM. If they do, they could be special when it comes together. Give me a defensive head coach and an offensive assistant that opens things up and runs. It would be fun to watch these guys grow in that environment. Next year will be a year of learning, but if these guys gel and the rookies play well they will be solid in two seasons.
 
I don't want any vets until we see what we get in the draft. I am going to scream if we draft Wiggins, Parker, Embiid or etc. and see them sit behind some player who is a year or two away from being out of the league. You want to build this team for the long haul and having as many young players playing is the only way to get better and have better chemistry.

By FA, I think the way Lindsey will go is to get guys with upside, like Boozer and Memo. RJ was a completely different animal since he came as an expiring. Vet that comes in needs to be in his mid 20's. Outside of that, then you have players at the vet minimum to be emergency players (like a 3rd PG). There are minutes at the 4/5 and certainly at the 3. Also at PG. Neto and Garrett may be serviceable, but if the Jazz could upgrade, that would certainly improve the team.
 
WHAT? An NBA player thinking he should have received more minutes. There isn't a player in the league who doesn't think he got enough minutes.
you heard other jazz players complaining about minutes in these interviews?
 
I don't want any vets until we see what we get in the draft. I am going to scream if we draft Wiggins, Parker, Embiid or etc. and see them sit behind some player who is a year or two away from being out of the league. You want to build this team for the long haul and having as many young players playing is the only way to get better and have better chemistry.

The should like make the draft before like the FA period starts, say like.... and I''m just throwing out dates here... but say draft is on June 26th and then uhhh again just spit balling here but say FA period starts July 1st. Then like you said they would be able to draft before going after FA's.
 
The should like make the draft before like the FA period starts, say like.... and I''m just throwing out dates here... but say draft is on June 26th and then uhhh again just spit balling here but say FA period starts July 1st. Then like you said they would be able to draft before going after FA's.
Great idea! I think if we pass this along to Silver right now he might even be able to make it happen for this summer.
 
By FA, I think the way Lindsey will go is to get guys with upside, like Boozer and Memo. RJ was a completely different animal since he came as an expiring. Vet that comes in needs to be in his mid 20's. Outside of that, then you have players at the vet minimum to be emergency players (like a 3rd PG). There are minutes at the 4/5 and certainly at the 3. Also at PG. Neto and Garrett may be serviceable, but if the Jazz could upgrade, that would certainly improve the team.

So how are the young guys going to every have chemistry if you keep bringing in veteran guys? So if we bring in a veteran guy how are the young guys going to establish leadership? Jazz have a lot of young talent do just give up on it and bring in retreads or even decent vets. So if the Jazz get either Parker or Wiggins are they going to need to "earn" their minutes while we watch some "vet" put up average numbers. There is no reason to bring in vets until you establish the Core of your team. You don't rebuild in one year. Not if you are going to do this the right way.

The Jazz need to address the coaching
Then the draft
Then sign there own free agents
Then if there is any vet that would compliment the team and strengthen the bench then you make a deal.
Summer league - coach instills new system and then camp they emphasize a more uptempo game and DEFENSE.
 
So how are the young guys going to every have chemistry if you keep bringing in veteran guys? So if we bring in a veteran guy how are the young guys going to establish leadership? Jazz have a lot of young talent do just give up on it and bring in retreads or even decent vets. So if the Jazz get either Parker or Wiggins are they going to need to "earn" their minutes while we watch some "vet" put up average numbers. There is no reason to bring in vets until you establish the Core of your team. You don't rebuild in one year. Not if you are going to do this the right way.

The Jazz need to address the coaching
Then the draft
Then sign there own free agents
Then if there is any vet that would compliment the team and strengthen the bench then you make a deal.
Summer league - coach instills new system and then camp they emphasize a more uptempo game and DEFENSE.

This is why I'm so high on Longabardi. He had Pierce and Allen playing top 10 defense. He has the Suns playing top 15 defense. Could you imagine how nasty he could make our defense with length like Burke, Burks, Hayward, Favors, Gobert and our draft pick? We would be a top 10 defensive team next year.
 
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