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LOL at delusional BYU fans

I love it when Little Bro goes on tilt. As much as it happens you'd think we'd get used to it. But it's hilarious every time.
 
Finally, the Ute version of Conan, but much worse. Neener, neener, neener.

I'm going to call it a tie. Rember, Conan thinks hating BYU automatically makes you a biggot because that means you also hate mormons.

Thats every bit as crazy at what this other yahoo is yammering on about.
 
You guys fail to get it. I type something that seems socially and morally reprehensible to you and you don't see that (1) this isn't some authentic message from my soul, and (2) that I'm merely commenting on the social and moral standard that the likes of Trout thinks he has complete ownership of; that he feels he never trespasses when he flippantly and arrogantly paints the world his color. If I were to tell you that Trout has offended me many times you'd probably tell me to get a life -- and thus make yourself triumphant. If I were to push Trout's arrogance further (as I've done) you say that I've gone on "tilt" or try to stereotype/medicalize me -- and thus make yourself triumphant once again.

This is my whole point -- all that SENSE that I make -- is that you are actually moralizing with these little crescendos and motifs that make you triumphant. Calling me names..... I want to entice this because I think it is ********. I jump into the ring when I see fools like you drawing lines in the sand on a BLOODY MESSAGE BOARD. This place would be far freer place without the likes of you. I am a mirror of your own fascisms.

@jazzman12: distance if you'd like, but try to see my point.
 
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You guys fail to get it. I type something that seems socially and morally reprehensible to you and you (1) don't see that this isn't some authentic message from my soul, and (2) that I'm merely commenting on the social and moral standard that the likes of Trout thinks he has complete ownership of; that he feels he never trespasses when he flippantly and arrogantly paints the world his color. If I were to tell you that Trout has offended me many times you'd probably tell me to get a life -- and thus make yourself triumphant. If I were to push Trout's arrogance further (as I've done) you say that I've gone on "tilt" or try to stereotype/medicalize me -- and thus make yourself triumphant once again.

This is my whole point -- all that SENSE that I make -- is that you are actually moralizing with these little crescendos and motifs that make you triumphant. Calling me names..... I want to entice this because I think it is ********. I jump into the ring when I see fools like you drawing lines in the sand on a BLOODY MESSAGE BOARD. This place would be far freer place without the likes of you. I am a mirror of your own fascisms.

@jazzman12: distance if you'd like, but try to see my point.

Can somebody please translate this?
 
I made a small edit, but if you TRY it makes sense.
This is sorta a theme: TRY to see the sense others are making before you speak.
 
I made a small edit, but if you TRY it makes sense.
This is sorta a theme: TRY to see the sense others are making before you speak.

So, if what you are saying doesn't make sense to Marcus, that's HIS fault?

I'm not taking sides here, but that's pretty self-serving logic.

As a party unattached to either side of this issue, I see it this way; you disagree, and there is little to no chance of that changing.

FWIW.

P.S. I say this knowing full well I will probably be told immediately how stupid, ignorant, and probably stinky I am.
 
You guys fail to get it. I type something that seems socially and morally reprehensible to you and you don't see that (1) this isn't some authentic message from my soul, and (2) that I'm merely commenting on the social and moral standard that the likes of Trout thinks he has complete ownership of; that he feels he never trespasses when he flippantly and arrogantly paints the world his color. If I were to tell you that Trout has offended me many times you'd probably tell me to get a life -- and thus make yourself triumphant. If I were to push Trout's arrogance further (as I've done) you say that I've gone on "tilt" or try to stereotype/medicalize me -- and thus make yourself triumphant once again.

This is my whole point -- all that SENSE that I make -- is that you are actually moralizing with these little crescendos and motifs that make you triumphant. Calling me names..... I want to entice this because I think it is ********. I jump into the ring when I see fools like you drawing lines in the sand on a BLOODY MESSAGE BOARD. This place would be far freer place without the likes of you. I am a mirror of your own fascisms.

@jazzman12: distance if you'd like, but try to see my point.

It's not that I cannot see your point. I just think you're taking things a bit too serious. Trout is probably a pretty nice guy for a hermo. I think he simply enjoys goofing off on this message board and nothing more. It's a freaking message board. Nothing more, nothing less. Let's not over think this.
 
It's not that I cannot see your point. I just think you're taking things a bit too serious. Trout is probably a pretty nice guy for a hermo. I think he simply enjoys goofing off on this message board and nothing more. It's a freaking message board. Nothing more, nothing less. Let's not over think this.

Um, besides BYU football, this message board is LIFE. /flex
 
So, if what you are saying doesn't make sense to Marcus, that's HIS fault?

No. What I'm saying is that I wrote an intentionally obscure(ish) post so that Marcus, Trout, and CONAN would have to stop their rolls and try to understand somebody expressing a point that they didn't agree with which contained more than two or three nuances. If there has been a single problem with this interaction it is that they refuse to do that. Picture them reading the post in question, and be honest: is there any way they were reading that for any other reason except for a place to drive-in their wedge, insert their own claims, and discredit me? I think those kinds of interactions are fascinating, and I usually jump in hot water around here intentionally... when there is an interaction that is already moving that direction. In a sense, I like to see these dramas unfold. I mean, how old can Marcus be? 30s? 20s, even? And despite that youth how often do you get the sense that he carries with him into every interaction a finished and dogmatic set of beliefs, ready-made!? Castrated living.

You could say I'm taking this too seriously. You could also call it research since I spend a good bit of my professional life tip-toeing around people of similar impenetrability. You could also see that I sorta enjoy this. Perhaps the claim (by jazzman12) that I'm taking this too seriously is just one of the latest iterations of putting me in my place?

How many guys do you think actually control the culture of this place? 6? less? It'd be nice if there was less banal thinking, in general, around here (by they way, if you find that last statement offensive you should count yourself in the total).
 
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No. What I'm saying is that I wrote an intentionally obscure(ish) post so that Marcus, Trout, and CONAN would have to stop their rolls and try to understand somebody expressing a point that they didn't disagree with which contained more than two or three nuances. If there has been a single problem with this interaction it is that they refuse to do that. Picture them reading the post in question, and be honest: is there any way they were reading that for any other reason except for a place to drive-in their wedge, insert their own claims, and discredit me?

Maybe, maybe not. But I doubt their intentions are as malicious as you may perceive them to be. Perhaps they feel the same frustration at being dismissed out of hand.

I mean, how old can Marcus be? 30s? 20s, even? And despite that youth how often do you get the sense that he carries with him into every interaction a finished and dogmatic set of beliefs, ready-made!? Castrated living.

You don't feel that's a little presumptuous? Do you expect everyone else to listen to you with a clean slate and total objectivity?

It'd be nice if there was less banal thinking, in general, around here (by they way, if you find that last statement offensive you should count yourself in the total).

The only thing about that statement that I found disagreeable was your follow up. It was nice of you to try to dress it up as a qualifier, rather than coming right out and calling me dumb.

While I understand your desire for more open thought and intellectual honesty, it is prudent to bear in mind that this is, ultimately, a basketball forum. I'm not suggesting that you should discontinue your quest for whole-board enlightenment. I'm just saying, it's silly to be so incredulous when other perspectives don't align with yours. It's gonna happen.
 
Maybe, maybe not. But I doubt their intentions are as malicious as you may perceive them to be. Perhaps they feel the same frustration at being dismissed out of hand.



You don't feel that's a little presumptuous? Do you expect everyone else to listen to you with a clean slate and total objectivity?



The only thing about that statement that I found disagreeable was your follow up. It was nice of you to try to dress it up as a qualifier, rather than coming right out and calling me dumb.

While I understand your desire for more open thought and intellectual honesty, it is prudent to bear in mind that this is, ultimately, a basketball forum. I'm not suggesting that you should discontinue your quest for whole-board enlightenment. I'm just saying, it's silly to be so incredulous when other perspectives don't align with yours. It's gonna happen.

BTW Bronco, I like you and your style. I never meant to insinuate anything contrary to this. My last statement addresses a broader audience (I can see where you got confused)
And, no, I don't expect people to listen to me with a clean slate. I've knowingly jumped into impossible situations (Beantown, now this) just to move the absurdity to a logical conclusion. I detect a slight miscommunication on this, the very most important, point. The incredulousness is the wave I jump on, and its amplitude is what I magnify.

EDIT: and the only reason that I out myself and my motives (instead of playing my role a la Hopper) is so that perhaps we can all step back and see the dramaturgy for what it is.
 
I mean, how old can Marcus be? 30s? 20s, even? And despite that youth how often do you get the sense that he carries with him into every interaction a finished and dogmatic set of beliefs, ready-made!? Castrated living.

LOL It's unbelievable how far off the mark you are here. Want to try again?
 
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