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That happens all the time, with every type of crime. It's called a settlement.

Yeah, but shouldn't a group of police be looking for justice? Isn't that the point of being in law enforcement?

Or is being a cop just about telling people what to do, handing out speeding tickets, and occasionally beating the crap out of people just for a power trip?
 
How do you feel about the City trying to pay the dad off to drop the case? Also other cops and officials watched the video. They are trying to protect their own and not serve actual justice.

Maybe they don't see any wrongdoing and want to save the pain of going through a long, drawn out legal battle.

Or is being a cop just about telling people what to do, handing out speeding tickets, and occasionally beating the crap out of people just for a power trip?

Yeah ChitownDawg, it was all a power trip and had nothing to do with the guy resisting arrest for 8 minutes. Chalk it up to poor judgement if you want but cops are trained to use such force under these circumstances. Maybe you ought to consider why it was so hard for 5 men to subdue a guy after tasing him and beating him. What drug was he on?
 
Maybe they don't see any wrongdoing and want to save the pain of going through a long, drawn out legal battle.



Yeah ChitownDawg, it was all a power trip and had nothing to do with the guy resisting arrest for 8 minutes. Chalk it up to poor judgement if you want but cops are trained to use such force under these circumstances. Maybe you ought to consider why it was so hard for 5 men to subdue a guy after tasing him and beating him. What drug was he on?

The drug of being poor and an easy target?
 
To those saying he was resisting arrest.. are you serious? They kept telling him to do damn near impossible things. "Put your hands behind your back" .... Ummm, he had two fat ****s sitting ON his back and couldn't breath... how the hell was he supposed to put his hands behind his back? "Relax, quit restraining" ... yeah, umm, you just beat the **** out of him with batons and tazed him.. hard to relax. This is called police brutality. Period. You don't think so? Shut the **** up. This is the sad, pathetic world that we live in. Sure, there may have been some minor restraint from the victim, but the actions of these police officers went WAAAAAAY over the line.
 
Maybe they don't see any wrongdoing and want to save the pain of going through a long, drawn out legal battle.



Yeah ChitownDawg, it was all a power trip and had nothing to do with the guy resisting arrest for 8 minutes. Chalk it up to poor judgement if you want but cops are trained to use such force under these circumstances. Maybe you ought to consider why it was so hard for 5 men to subdue a guy after tasing him and beating him. What drug was he on?

The cops recognized his impaired state of reason as being "on something". Probably they know all about it.

A cop who puts on a pair of latex gloves while standing over a drugged-up dude, while issuing orders to stretch out his legs and to put his hands on his knees might size up the problem as impaired thinking, I suppose.

But for the cop to be provoking the drugged dude with threats while standing over him, boldly declaring street talk dominance threats of how he's going to physically assault the sitting and non-violent "perp", clearly indicating a perverse pleasure in the opportunity to do so, makes me wonder what drugs that cop was on, besides the power tripping that can go with all that raw and unrestrained power and authority of having a badge, and all the weopons. . . . .

As it turned out, it wasn't just "inciting violence", "aggravated assault", or "bullying": It was rightly judged as second degree murder, and I'm glad the folks in Fullerton raised enough of a stink about it to get the main two of the six murderous cops off the streets for a very long time.

The fact that the police did not police themselves is a bald statement that the cop culture in that place had gotten way way outta line with their sworn duty to protect citizens and uphold the law. The other four cops I counted in the video should be fired, at the very least. And the chief of police who did not see the problem when he reviewed the tape the very first time. Unfit for police work. Period.

The cop might have had a problem getting handcuffs on the dude huddled on the curb, but his greater problem was the strut he was acting out himself.
 
Yeah, but shouldn't a group of police be looking for justice? Isn't that the point of being in law enforcement?

Or is being a cop just about telling people what to do, handing out speeding tickets, and occasionally beating the crap out of people just for a power trip?

I wonder if you'll be singing the same stupid song the next time you dial 9-1-1 for help, you worthless bag of dump. I officially hate you, Pwnasaurus.
 
The cops recognized his impaired state of reason as being "on something". Probably they know all about it.

A cop who puts on a pair of latex gloves while standing over a drugged-up dude, while issuing orders to stretch out his legs and to put his hands on his knees might size up the problem as impaired thinking, I suppose.

But for the cop to be provoking the drugged dude with threats while standing over him, boldly declaring street talk dominance threats of how he's going to physically assault the sitting and non-violent "perp", clearly indicating a perverse pleasure in the opportunity to do so, makes me wonder what drugs that cop was on, besides the power tripping that can go with all that raw and unrestrained power and authority of having a badge, and all the weopons. . . . .

As it turned out, it wasn't just "inciting violence", "aggravated assault", or "bullying": It was rightly judged as second degree murder, and I'm glad the folks in Fullerton raised enough of a stink about it to get the main two of the six murderous cops off the streets for a very long time.

The fact that the police did not police themselves is a bald statement that the cop culture in that place had gotten way way outta line with their sworn duty to protect citizens and uphold the law. The other four cops I counted in the video should be fired, at the very least. And the chief of police who did not see the problem when he reviewed the tape the very first time. Unfit for police work. Period.

The cop might have had a problem getting handcuffs on the dude huddled on the curb, but his greater problem was the strut he was acting out himself.

Do you want to punish the cops for following protocol or change the protocol?
 
Posted the story back-up, but copy and pasted it so the expletives are now ***** out and no video.
 
I don't think the city offering the dad money would have any impact on a criminal case. They don't allow the victims families to say , "Hey, don't charge him with murder. They gave me some money."

It might protect them from future civil cases.
 
I don't think the city offering the dad money would have any impact on a criminal case. They don't allow the victims families to say , "Hey, don't charge him with murder. They gave me some money."

It might protect them from future civil cases.

The dad would drop the charges in exchange for money. Obviously not many people are going to care about a homeless man if no one makes a fuss about it and brings it to light, so they tried to pay the dad to drop the whole thing early, but he didn't and started to raise awareness about that case.
 
The dad has no power to make or drop murder charges. Nor does he have any say in it either. The only scenario I can see where he would really have any influence would be is he was an eye witness and refused to testify or something. The prosecutor may not be able to bring charges for lack of evidence or whatever.
 
The dad has no power to make or drop murder charges. Nor does he have any say in it either. The only scenario I can see where he would really have any influence would be is he was an eye witness and refused to testify or something. The prosecutor may not be able to bring charges for lack of evidence or whatever.

Last year, Ron Thomas, a retired Orange County Sheriff's deputy, said the City of Fullerton offered him $900,000 to just go away, which would have allowed the two cops to remain on the force unpunished for killing his son.

That is what the article said. I guess the father was pushing for stuff to happen, that necessarily didn't have to happen if we was less active.
 
How do you feel about the City trying to pay the dad off to drop the case? Also other cops and officials watched the video. They are trying to protect their own and not serve actual justice.


And you have implied several times that the dad had the power to bring or drop charges, which he does not.

Also, I would think that with this case, like any police involved death case, the situation would have been analyzed by the attorneys office and charges would have been filed or not filed based on their findings. Again, the father may have put pressure on the city to bring charges on (like he should have) but a payoff from the city would have no impact to whether murder charges were brought on the officers or not.
 
Do you want to punish the cops for following protocol or change the protocol?

The problem, at it's root, is our whole system, stemming from British-style elitist-managed socialism. . . . er. . . British fascism.

It's based on the Lords of the Castles keeping the peasantry "safe" or "secure" but utterly dependent on their Lordly grace. . . . er. . . . taxes or land rents high enough to make sure there is no way "out" for the peasants, and a form of "education" that ensures servility.

John Dewey, the "great" socialist educator imported from England, who became our leading influential educator in the the twenties and thirties, advocated ditching the classical sort of education. In Europe, this sort of education was used to breed elites who were fit to rule the unwashed masses around the world. But when some Americans dawdled over Greek and Latin, and read the writings from civilazations that once toyed with ideals of human dignity and fondly embraced the intellectual powers a human can rise to, given a little room to do so, something went terribly wrong, in the estimation of the royal snobs and hangers-on in the "best cirlces of society".

It was a repeat of the fiasco that inflamed Europe when printing presses and some idealistic fools like Martin Luther, endowed the common man with human rights of conscience. Education that teaches and empowers the human to reason is just not good for the people. Well, that is, it's too good for the masses, too dangerous to let ordinary folks have access to a dignified human existence based upon the capacity for reason. No, that was just a waste of scarce government resources. No Sir. We must treat people like dumb animals, and "Train to Task". With "Task" defined by "elites" who own the resources, the land, the castles, and the armies, and the governments. Brit fascism, in short. Ah socialism and fascism are the dreams of many a parlor-bred elitist.

So, as a consequence, we have morons like you who rely on "protocol" as a substitute for "humanity".

Reliance on a formulaic sort of "righteousness" that would put the Pharisees to shame.

Where-ever you go today. . . . no doubt in your job. . . . you have systematic procedures that tell you what to do in every little aspect of your work. The workplace has no tolerance for thinking workers anymore. Doctors can't use their own immediate insights, they have to dole out medicines and procedures "by the book". Too many insurance bureaucrats watching and too may lawyers itching to sue. Professionals of every kind have institutionalized "protocol" in the stead of intelligence, creativity, and art. . . . well, instead of common sense, really.

No franklin, I wouldn't deign to write a new protocol. Maybe it's too late for us as a civilization to mend our ways and aspire once again to intelligence, but I urge you all to try.

The cops have who have "protocols" that require them to mercilessly beat non-compliant drugged crapbags to death have lost their most essential of human attributes.

A society that has "protocols" in the place of common sense, common decency, and the essential human virtues, has lost it's whole justification for being. Time to take it down, and start over.

time for returning to Jesus and his principles, I'd say.

Of all the places on earth where people could rise up and take a stand for humanity, no place needs it as much as SoCal. Well, except for Utah, that is, where the LDS "faith" has wholeheartedly embraced absolute Protocol worship and has become the most reliable bastion of Brit socialism/fascism on the face of the Earth, and the one place that will not only tolerate but actually reverence, servility for the sake of servility.
 
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This Cicinelli guy has been through some ****. He takes six bullets in the line of duty and gets let go because of it and now this.
Yeah, it's funny how killing someone who did nothing wrong will do that to your career.
 
It's a white guy who died at the hands of a Hispanic officer so we have to prosecute right?


Why didn't he comply with the officers? Why did he raise his aggression level? Why did he run? Why did he continue resisting arrest the entire time? What else were the police supposed to do? And how does Corporal Cicinelli pass his eye exam?

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I'm trying not to be, but I just can't help but be disturbed by this photo. This guy did a good job as Sloth in the Goonies though.
 
So, as a consequence, we have morons like you who rely on "protocol" as a substitute for "humanity".

The cops have who have "protocols" that require them to mercilessly beat non-compliant drugged crapbags to death have lost their most essential of human attributes.

A society that has "protocols" in the place of common sense, common decency, and the essential human virtues, has lost it's whole justification for being. Time to take it down, and start over.

Then change the protocol so they're not trained to beat the **** out of people. Don't train them to subdue at all costs to a suspected criminal, in the name of "protect and serve", and then charge them with murder when they do what society told them to do. These actions are a product of society so you might as well indict us all.
 
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