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LOL @ Global Warming

I do not personally buy into man made global warming that much. However if we can make our industries cleaner I think we should.
 
I support making stuff cleaner....

As long as I don't have to pay extra for it!

BTW, I shoveled, what like a week ago? A few inches of this global heating off my driveway. Sooooooo ya. But who am I to doubt these incorruptible scientists who have no agendas who talk about global warming?

If makin my Utah winters more like California or Florida winters, then I say keep thing global heating thing a comin!
 
Are you clowns actually serious?

You aren't hanging me on this false cross of conservation. We owe it to mother earth to release the trapped gasses inside her bowels. We owe it to the plants and animals who have been hurting for millennia. They need those trapped resources to survive and they need them now more than ever. I, for one, am committed to doing my part to save the environment.

Here's something from a genius who gets it:

Back in the day they found oil by bushwacking until they stumbled upon ponds of the black gold just laying out in the open. You think that was really so good for the environment, for the birds and fluffy little bunnies? A group of well intentioned folks saw the problem, brainstormed about it a bit, and figured a way to clean up the messes by making oil economical.

Same thing happened offshore. Oil slicks were EVERYWHERE. Too much pressure down in Mother's belly and she blows oil all over the ocean. The good folks of America, ya know the saints we always are, found a way to relieve the pressure. As a bonus, they created some awesome fish habitat in the process. More fish cultivation and less fish killed by the oil slick.

But these crazy *** environmental terrorists want us to stop cleansing the world of this nasty stuff all in the name of conservation. They aren't saving anything.
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At first I was like, man this thread got hijacked!!

Then I realized I was the idiot for trying to have a legitimate conversation about serious world topics via the interwebz. lulz

btw did anyone see that video where that kids all drumming like crazy, then he just pukes all over himself. THEN KEEPS ON DRUMMING.

like a boss....
 
larryselbows said:
btw did anyone see that video where that kids all drumming like crazy, then he just pukes all over himself. THEN KEEPS ON DRUMMING.
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What makes you think I'm not dead serious? We are cycling carbon and the fight against that is environmental terrorism.


https://www.stanford.edu/~moore/Boon_To_Man.html

Senator Mitchell's forecast and his history are both wrong. Warmer periods bring benign rather than more violent weather. Milder temperatures will induce more evaporation from oceans and thus more rainfall -- where it will fall we cannot be sure but the earth as a whole should receive greater precipitation. Meteorologists now believe that any rise in sea levels over the next century will be at most a foot or more, not twenty.[2] In addition, Mitchell flunks history: around 6,000 years ago the earth sustained temperatures that were probably more than four degrees Fahrenheit hotter than those of the twentieth century, yet mankind flourished. The Sahara desert bloomed with plants, and water loving animals such as hippopotamuses wallowed in rivers and lakes. Dense forests carpeted Europe from the Alps to Scandinavia. The Midwest of the United States was somewhat drier than it is today, similar to contemporary western Kansas or eastern Colorado; but Canada enjoyed a warmer climate and more rainfall.
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I know, I'm just another tree hugging, hippopotamus loving hippie.
 
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larryselbows said:
At first I was like, man this thread got hijacked!!

Then I realized I was the idiot for trying to have a legitimate conversation about serious world topics via the interwebz. lulz

btw did anyone see that video where that kids all drumming like crazy, then he just pukes all over himself. THEN KEEPS ON DRUMMING.

like a boss....
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Sorry, I don't doubt your sincerity. I just thought your sarcasm about conspiracy theories based on such science as gravity, outer space, and reality was a hoot. I couldn't help myself.

Scientists actually generally recognize that our understanding of gravity is inadequate, and have observed anomalies that are among the topics debated in the grandest scales we can imagine. Nobody has gone very far into outer space either, and the current efforts at developing a better "theory of everything" have significant differences on the nature of space itself. As for "reality", everyone knows that's a human notion of supreme egoism. It's not really "out there", but "in there". Meaning what we sometimes argue about as being "reality" is mostly neuronal phenomena that occur inside our distinctly different skulls.

The UN committees on climate change will keep editing their alarms while more and more scientists raise more and more issues with the predictions while time goes on proving them unfounded. That's the way it is with science that transgresses the usual protocols of refraining from extrapolations far beyond what the data shows.

Sorry to be a bubble-buster, but I remember when the UN crowd was crowing "Ice Age!!!" as their pretext for radical enlargements of their power and influence. And we are about due for a new ice age. On a one hundred thousand year recurring pattern we have been getting about ninety thousand years of ice and ten thousand years of warm between the long cold deep freezes. Long term data has shown swings in temps of around fifteen degrees associated wtih those climatic shifts, and ocean level swings of as much as two hundred feet. It is true we are at the usual high-water mark, and that is why coral reefs haven't grown taller than they are. The thing to do with the nearly submerged reefs now is just make sure the coral is healthy so when the water recedes again, it will be a little higher.

I'm not going to be part of the the chicken little crowd about something that is clearly well-precedented (as opposed to unprecedented as some claim). Nature deserves all the understanding and respect we can give. Franklin and his source have a good point. Some folks believe all that oil was once atmospheric carbon dioxide until it was beneficially used by plants to produce green stuff that could sustain life. We also have tens of thousands of feet of carbonate deposits across much of the planet that was once in our atmosphere. We are pretty small in the scale of the carbon cycle, but I agree we should encourage alternative energy and conservation, though I think educational outreach is all that is called for. Beyond that, we can assuredly afford to let people act in their own best economic and environmental judgment, while maybe having some regulations or laws that encourage large-scale operations to exercise due diligence in favor of downwind and downstream interests. I have nothing against communities making some improvements in their spheres either. I guess this is where I get called a socialist sometimes.

I don't see anything wrong with people acting together to improve their circumstances and conditions of life. I mostly object to corporate lobbyists hijacking the government in ways that clearly are self-serving to the detriment of all, and to intolerance of folks who just want to try something different on their own thinking and agency. "There oughtta be a law" laws that a majority of folks think are reasonable are by that exact same preponderance unnecessary. If almost everyone wants to conserve, the problem with the few who are conspicuous consumers really isn't a big problem, is it? So why do we need that law???

Because we really don't believe people should be free????
 
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