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Hopper

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“ What is supposed to be my concern? First and foremost, the Good Cause, then God's cause, the cause of mankind, of truth, of freedom, of humanity, of justice; further, the cause of my people, my prince, my fatherland; finally, even the cause of Mind, and a thousand other causes. All Things Are Nothing To Me. My concern is neither the divine nor the human, not the true, good, just, free, etc., but solely what is mine, and it is not a general one, but is -- unique, as I am unique. Nothing is more to me than myself!” (Max Stirner)

Max, he ROCKS, eh!?
 
Max, he ROCKS, eh!?

I guess mebbe the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy done answered that there question already, eh?


"Max Stirner (1806-56) is best known as the author of the idiosyncratic and provocative book entitled Der Einzige und sein Eigenthum (1844). Familiar in English as The Ego and Its Own (a more literal translation might be The Individual and his Property), both the form and content of Stirner's work are disconcerting. He challenges expectations about how political and philosophical argument should be conducted, and seeks to shake confidence in the superiority of contemporary civilisation. He provides a sweeping attack on the modern world as dominated by religious modes of thought and oppressive social institutions, together with a brief sketch of a radical ‘egoistic’ alternative in which individual autonomy might flourish. The historical impact of The Ego and Its Own is not easy to assess. However, Stirner's book can plausibly be claimed to have had a divisive impact on his left-Hegelian contemporaries, to have played a significant role in the intellectual development of Karl Marx (1818-1883), and to have influenced the tradition of individualist anarchism."

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/max-stirner/
 
can someone more familiar with this board tell me if hopper is trolling by pasting an incorrect quote he copied out of an e-mail one of his idiot relatives sent him or if he's being genuine
 
can someone more familiar with this board tell me if hopper is trolling by pasting an incorrect quote he copied out of an e-mail one of his idiot relatives sent him or if he's being genuine

How can a quote be incorrect. it's a damn quote after all.


P.S. Take it to da house!
 
Marx and Engles wasted about 500 pages tryin to refute Max Headroom, but failed, and then gave up.
 
my favorite part of this thread was hopper's frantic rush to correct his misspelling of stirner's name before the system could stamp his edit

and haha you didn't break it down, someone else did
 
All without elipses or any indication he's altered the quote.

Although Max was knowwed to go out and howl at the moon long about midnite on many occasions (he hated the moon cause he couldn't control it) I don't see where planetary matters like eclipses has nuthin to do with nuthin, eh?
 
I broke it down to the gist, eh, Kicky? Ya gotta problem wit dat? Ya tryin to say I misquoted sumthin?

Yes. By definition you misquoted.

You presented statements out of order, inserted statements that are not in the original text, and presented it in a format, with quotation marks, that made it appear to be one coherent statement. You presented words in an order never written by Max Stirner as if they were written by him verbatim.

There's significant sections from the original you've excised.

For example: "Only my cause is never to be my concern. Shame on the egoist who thinks only of himself!"

You've also taken out the entire middle section which is designed to demonstrate the selfish and egoistic nature of God's plan and design and the way in which he relates to humanity. Arguably you have completely subverted the meaning of the writing of Stirner by presenting it as a celebration of egoism rather than his much deeper point about separate kinds of egoism in individuals vs. egoism in entities.

Example: "I have no need to take up each thing that wants to throw its cause on us and show that it is occupied only with itself, not with us, only with its good, not with ours. Look at the rest for yourselves. Do truth, freedom, humanity, justice, desire anything else than that you grow enthusiastic and serve them?

They all have an admirable time of it when they receive zealous homage. Just observe the nation that is defended by devoted patriots. The patriots fall in bloody battle or in the fight with hunger and want; what does the nation care for that? By the manure of their corpses the nation comes to "its bloom"! The individuals have died "for the great cause of the nation," and the nation sends some words of thanks after them and - has the profit of it. I call that a paying kind of egoism."
 
Leave it to Kicky to try and avoid the substance of a philosophical thread and turn it all into a session of pedantry based on punctuation. You go, Kicky! Am I gunna git an infraction cause it aint in a cartoon balloon, I wonder?
 
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