PearlWatson
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It ain't an opinion.
It is an observation on human behavior.
Guys have the ability to make a cost benefit analysis.
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It ain't an opinion.
It is an observation on human behavior.
Guys have the ability to make a cost benefit analysis.
well, first of all, imo, the real question is "Why would a guy want sex unless it's to be a father of the kid", but unless a guy is given a pattern of patriarchal family structure and unless a guy has an obvious need for kids who can help out as they grow up, and assume the care of the patriarchal economic unit in their adult years, that point is pretty much lost.
It was the Catholic Church/Medieval State that first moved to marginalize the fathers in social structures, in an attempt to augment the fascist State powers. Little Lords and little priests become the local power structure facilitators..... community organizers, if you will. . . . . .functioning to concentrate the absolute power of the State, destroying families with men doing what men do best. . . . working with their own hands on property that belongs to themselves to provide the material support for women rearing children. . .. not to really understate the value of the tasks women do in those kinds of family structures. In this kind of society, it is the father that the children are taught to respect as the head of the clan, and along with that it is the mother that establishes the precedent.
Fascist Statism and Corporatism destroy that system.
Oh, sociologists have documented a few smaller sorts of societies that have matriarchal aspects. But even so, the "government" is local and accountable to the governed at a very personal level, and people will talk over their problems and solve their issues somehow, locally or within the clan. The Philippines has some areas that are very "matriarchal" in family organization, as well as some areas in China, and perhaps in the Polynesian cultures in some respects.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger in her radio program some years ago, circa 2006 or so, couldn't imagine why a Chinese girl couldn't just disregard her parents' ideas or wishes about who she should marry. . .. Western societies now hundreds of years removed from a family-centered system of "government" and family-centered ideals of duties and identities just don't "get it". We think of elevating "individual rights" above tribal or clan organization, but while doing so we have subjugated those very "individual rights" to the will of the State. To the will of a fascist State controlled by a few elites.
So, how is that "progress"???
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PearlWatson
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obvious answer
No.
OK, here's my ribald take on sexual relations. Why does a guy even need a girl???
Pretty??? Soft????? dressed in a cute dress??? It's all patently "conspicuous gilding", as in "gilding the lilies" if you please. There's a hundred million Chinese men in China who are doing just fine without a woman. Their government is building jets, aircraft carriers, and missiles. Probably has more than one gun for each of them. They have huge freighters with these steel box railcar container types of things. Could ship them all to the States and just unload them, and let them run loose. Some of them might be distracted by our women for a moment, but I assure you, they'll give it up pretty quick. Lots of Big Box stores to ransack, and lots of stuff in all the big houses.
What's more, after their first bag of Reese's they'll be Americans already. Oh, they might have some quarrels with the illegal alien/Mexicans, but I'm sure our politicians will fall all over themselves declaring that they are humans with every right to be here.
In Vegas they will make good dealers at the casinos.
But to the point, besides males who are just hormonally stupid, women are more trouble than fun. At some length of time beyond mere adolescence, a man will want something like an understanding mind, a companion who shares some important values, and some kids. Without that, a man is just an animal. With that, he's got a place of honor in the Cosmos.
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Hello Babe. When i die i want you cremate me, pour ashes into bowl of Wendy's chili, and eat me so I can tear that *** up one more time.
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Hahahahaha... NAOS is such as bitch sometimes.
The Entire History of Human Property Rights and World Populations
exponential positive correlating function
Because, as Blackstone taught, the fundamental nature of property is self, food, fiber, shelter and provisions against every life-threatening contingency. . . . .
Socialism of any kind aspires to transform individual "property" or rights to collective negotiables, and then aspires accumulate in the hands of a few "managers" the power to dictate who will live, and who will die.
exponential positive correlating function
Because, as Blackstone taught, the fundamental nature of property is self, food, fiber, shelter and provisions against every life-threatening contingency. . . . .
Socialism of any kind aspires to transform individual "property" or rights to collective negotiables, and then aspires accumulate in the hands of a few "managers" the power to dictate who will live, and who will die.
Where people peaceably can hold and use property with maximum personal discretion, populations grow. The freer the individual, the wealthier that state will become in a few years. Mothers and their babies get better nutrition and better clothing/homes/tools. People roll outta bed and find something worth doing. . . .
The more socialist a State is, the more private property is "at risk" politically, the poorer a nation will become in a few years. Mothers will worry about having babies. . .. they and their young will have less food, stuff. . . health will deteriorate. . . . . People won't roll outta bed or find anything worth doing because The State owns the means of production in some sort of cabal with a few tyrants/corporatist cartel holders. . . . Government will try to keep the people in circuses and carnivals and sports arenas, but nobody will do anything, and everyone will expect a little support from the powerful clique. . .. and get less and less of that support as time goes on. . . . people will not get healthcare, food, fiber, shelter. . . . and will be subject to higher mortality rates. . ..
The more socialist a State is, the more private property is "at risk" politically, the poorer a nation will become in a few years. Mothers will worry about having babies. . .. they and their young will have less food, stuff. . . health will deteriorate. . . . . People won't roll outta bed or find anything worth doing because The State owns the means of production in some sort of cabal with a few tyrants/corporatist cartel holders. . . . Government will try to keep the people in circuses and carnivals and sports arenas, but nobody will do anything, and everyone will expect a little support from the powerful clique. . .. and get less and less of that support as time goes on. . . . people will not get healthcare, food, fiber, shelter. . . . and will be subject to higher mortality rates. . ..
But probably the strongest determinant for any national prosperity, under any system of government, is the right to think differently and try things that haven't been tried, yet. . . . Intellectual endeavors, so to speak.
The nation with the highest talent in creativity is gonna take the lead on the world stage in a few years. . . .
The nation with the highest talent in creativity is gonna take the lead on the world stage in a few years. . . .
♪alt13
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I know this is a little late but...
I always considered myself pro-choice because I was under the false impression that it was always performed when the fetus was a clump of cells. My friend just had a baby boy at 27 weeks and while he does require oxygen while his lungs develop, he is clearly a child.
I would be for reexamining how late abortion should be allowed. I think this would require us all though to put aside our 'beliefs' on the matter and decide upon some new rational criteria to replace 'viability'. If you would like to see terminating a pregnancy banned from conception I have news for you, it ain't gunna happen. By supporting a position without compromise you are diverting attention from later term abortions which should be the focus.
If you(like I did for many years) think that babies don't get aborted just lumps of fetal cells I would ask you to research the subject a little more. I would also ask you to think about the pressure that some girls feel to have an abortion. I have seen it and I have met young women that are horribly emotionally scarred by the experience of having an abortion.
I never really cared for the heartbeat argument because pigs have heartbeats, a heartbeat does not make something human. I do think that a brain does however. 24 weeks is almost 6 months pregnant and is imo way too late.
I always considered myself pro-choice because I was under the false impression that it was always performed when the fetus was a clump of cells. My friend just had a baby boy at 27 weeks and while he does require oxygen while his lungs develop, he is clearly a child.
I would be for reexamining how late abortion should be allowed. I think this would require us all though to put aside our 'beliefs' on the matter and decide upon some new rational criteria to replace 'viability'. If you would like to see terminating a pregnancy banned from conception I have news for you, it ain't gunna happen. By supporting a position without compromise you are diverting attention from later term abortions which should be the focus.
If you(like I did for many years) think that babies don't get aborted just lumps of fetal cells I would ask you to research the subject a little more. I would also ask you to think about the pressure that some girls feel to have an abortion. I have seen it and I have met young women that are horribly emotionally scarred by the experience of having an abortion.
I never really cared for the heartbeat argument because pigs have heartbeats, a heartbeat does not make something human. I do think that a brain does however. 24 weeks is almost 6 months pregnant and is imo way too late.
And naturally, the nation that creates the best environment to foster such activity will be the frontrunner
Don't know the last subject of the thread because I read only this post but I wanted to say that I agree with what you say here.
I've never liked that motto "My body, my choice" and the ones like it, etc.. Helloo!!! It's not only your body anymore. Not after a certain point.
Really, the main focus should be on the abortion time.
PearlWatson
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By the time a female starts suspecting she might be pregnant (misses her period) she is already 2 weeks along, and already past the "clump of cells" stage.
Most abortions occur between 4 and 8 weeks where the baby looks very much like a baby.
PearlWatson
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Flawed logic. No one believes everything with a heartbeat is human. Everything with a heartbeat also has a brain of some kind.
The heartbeat argument ain't about whether a fetus is a "human," it is about whether a fetus is a "life" with constitutional protections.
If you go with the brain over heartbeat argument you would come into the degree of development problem as well.