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So Trump is doing all this so Hillary could win? What is he getting out of it? Is there any actual evidence to connect Trump and Hillary? Seems to me under this arrangement Trump is doing a lot of lifting for not much rewards.
 
 
ONE LOVE said:
So Trump is doing all this so Hillary could win? What is he getting out of it? Is there any actual evidence to connect Trump and Hillary? Seems to me under this arrangement Trump is doing a lot of lifting for not much rewards.
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LOL.

This from the guy who'll believe anything, pander to anyone, do anything to be a mod.

being a mod is doing the heavy lifting for the owners in here, and it pays what????

Trump likes the drama, that is enough, really. . . but no way is that all he'll get outta this.

I remember when Bill and Hillary Clinton were first time guests on PBS talking about building a better world through government. That was what. . . oh 1980? I don't think they were even on the scene in Little Rock yet. But they were young and idealistic, and they were being promoted by the then-governor of Arkansas, what's-his-name Rockefeller. They already knew which teats to suck on, and what to promise anyone.

For Trump, the suggestion sounded like an honor, if Hillary or Bill did make it. And to be sure, Trump will collect on his service to the winning team. All he has to do is let them know how.

But Trump doesn't really know how to keep his cool. He sees a crowd going ahhhh!!!! and wow!!!!! and instantly he starts to believe what he's saying. Guts and Glory man, Guts and Glory. I don't think he's ever had much of a second thought that didn't come from a dollar on the line. NO philosopher there, to be sure.

Life is as simple as anyone ever envisioned it. You jump in the pool and make a splash, you paddle around, and you're the King.

I've even heard Republican officials from the in-crowd talking about how Trump won't mind them, and how Cruz will be perfectly happy if they give him a seat on the Supreme Court. At that level of American Politics, everything is for sale. Kasich is a known team player, so are Ryan, Jeb, Romney, Baynor, McConnell and a lot of others. No one who is a team player goes broke doing it.

I think the most important person in politics today is Barry Obama. Short of the invisible hands, that is. Obama knows the arts of campaigning better than Hillary, and it's possible he will mount a clandestine dump Hillary movement because he hates her whiteness and her audacity. She'll be claiming all the glory for everything he's done, because she saved it all. . . Obama definitely has a ideological bond with Bernie, but Bernie won't kiss up with Kissinger and the Brit Royals. So anyway, all is not well on the Democrat side of the race, for sure. There is a serious contention over who will get the thumb on the vote counting machines. Nobody knows the answer to that but the people who do count.
 
So... searching for answers in this thread gets a personal insult now?



Hmm.. that's not the same old Babe I've come to know and love...



Apologies if I have offended.
 
babe said:
What's the beef going on with Peeks and Trout?
I usually will at least listen no matter who or what.

Yeah I thought you were genuine, and then it seemed you were working me for a chump.

A lot of people might take that sort of thing the wrong way.

Responsible people with working arms who are willing to use them are generally no more of a problem than police or soldiers. The difference, if any, is that ordinary people have good sense, compassion, and a working conscience.

Cops and police can easily be ordered to do atrocities by sociopath politicians.

Crooks, thieves, and gangs will use guns regardless of law, the same with terrorists.

You might be lucky as a Brit to have a mag a carta that keeps Kings//Queens on good conduct.

Americans who value a most basic human right are not chumps.
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LOL ... didn't think the average Joe believes a word that comes out of Trout's mouth let alone you of all people. So I'm not even going to give him the time of day.


I don't personally have issues with PKM whatsoever (not that I know of anyway), we're definitely on very good terms. We probably converse more in the UGLI forum than in the public forums that's probably why you haven't seen much interactions between me and him lately. In the thread he started I think he is venting ... yes.. but remember that as a Mod I only get 1 vote and you need 3 votes for a decision, so this idea that I wield this massive power is just absurd. PKM knows this as well as Trout, as well as anyone who's been here for a little while.


It's very easy to guess and speculate when you don't know what goes on behind closed doors, but I think we've been more than transparent in what we do and each warning/infraction is fully explained.


Hope that cleared a few things up for you. I've always respected you as a poster and a quality contributor to this site. I've always felt this thread in particular is a place that I (and many others) can always come and be open and unassuming and get a conversation going without worry or discrimination. It's still my hope that I can still do that here.
 
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your gun control thread and opinions struck me as sophomoric or even absurd. And some of your remarks on the conspiracy theorist theme put you on my bad list.

Anyone who doesn't understand that Great Britain has perhaps the best foreign policy experts, and the best tools for influencing events on this planet, particularly a Brit subject, has got to be playing the Americans with that line.

I'd rather have the Brits with that level of smarts than any other nation, though.

Sure it was the barons who forced the King to the Magna Carta, but it still ranks as fundamental to human rights as the US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution combined. It was those rights claimed by the Colonists in America as British subjects that led to the American Revolution.

I consider the gun-control agenda as specified in the United Nations agenda to be virtually a British Monarchy tool for reasserting British dominance over the globe in a form intended to make British dominance permanent, and in effect an end to the Magna Carta.

If I can't articulate that aspect of the issue in a manner understandable to British subjects, it just goes so far to explain why you are still called "subjects" and not sovereign human beings.

You should pay closer attention to the rhetoric your life is centered on.
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I don't know too much about the history of the King and Magna Carta, I am only an immigrant here after all. But living here what I can tell you is that 99.99% of the population don't even think about the Queen of England 99.99% of the time. She is simply a ignored figurehead here. Life is pretty simple here, we are a small country on a small island, in a somewhat remote part of the world. Most people live lives pretty simply, enjoy their families, enjoy doing the gardening, go to work, grow their own food sometimes, enjoy trekking, etc.


Dalamon is from Canada and Zulu is from South Africa, fgcamel is a kiwi, Downunder is an Aussie, I dunno how they feel about how the Queen influences the way they live their lives or their countries as a whole. Have you talked to them at all? How do they feel about the Queen and the Monarchy and how it influences their lives?


I mean if you want you're welcome to visit NZ anytime and even stay at our house and see what it's like here, but no we don't think about the British Monarchy at all except for when we're forced to see them in the gossip columns in the woman's magazines.
 
babe said:
@OneLove

I've actually met the troutster. He's pretty much the real deal, with a sense of humor. Applying the rules to him is about the same sort of thing as applying the rules to Ain't. Some folks are what I call Americans.

Americans have it in their blood to push their limits, to defy the rules of the house. It's a form of play, it's the way we say we're Americans.

Me? I'm British. LOL
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Are you really British? OH I didn't know that.. LOL .. when did you move to the US? Has the move changed you at all as a person?
 
babe said:
It wzs all my ancestors that did the moving. Charles Dickens went on board the Amazon and wrote about them, back in the day.

My ggrandpa was also a sidekick to Samuel Langhorn Clemens, in the Virginia City silver boom days, writing a little newspaper for the mines. They were paid well for getting the story done with a flair for helping speculators who could pay the right price. Mark Twain was his pen name, my my ancestor not SLC.

My ggrandma was a ringer for Queen Victoria, and claimed to be her cousin. Half of England, I think, has always been cousins to the Queen. That would make me a descendent of King George III. LOL.

I'm doing penance for my fathers' sins.

Most of my family acts like they are royalty. ha ha. what a pain.
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Wait... your great grandfather is Mark Twain??? Wow.. seriously????


I can see where you got your writing flair from!!!
 
Whoa Babe, your semi-optimistic post a few pages back about Californians seemingly changing course politically.......gets a big "I wish" from me.. The Agenda 21 crowd is already entrenched there. California is largely run by unelected councils such as the Southern California Association of Governments(SCAG), which you wouldn't find a soul in that state on the streets that actually knows about that group or how much power they actually have. Yet they just approved a 500 billion "sustainability" screw job for California not too long ago. Hasan Ikhrata is their brilliant leader who is infamously known for saying stupid **** like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oquNWFKx0s

And they've got California by the balls. It's unreal how corrupt that state's ruling class is.
 
babe said:
When KFI's token liberal starts going wow at Cruz and playing sound bytes of his speeches, and generally feigns speechlessness at the wonder of it all, and essentially replays Jon and Ken's interview with Cruz, I can feel the ground shaking.

Of course you are right about the Agenda 21 stranglehold on almost every little town and absolutely every larger one, and the counties. I dunno, maybe the Central Valley family farmers, if there are any left, will hold their noses and vote Hispanic for the historicity of it, too.

It's a wonder the illegal immigrant vote does go with the guys who will pump the SF bay estuaries up on the farmland again.

How many Californians listen to KFI anymore?
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I've heard a couple local radio guys there that have a decent grasp on what's happening, but it doesn't equate to much action within the citizenry. I'd say you get 0-5 citizens of any political bent at these meetings normally as I watch online streams occasionally from the area after their mayors get their marching orders from the SCAG council, watch youtube recaps, and have been to a few to myself when I'm in the area..... a bit more people show when people are organized. But if too many people show up, they simply filibuster until people get bored/have to go do something else and then introduce the meat of the agenda when people clear out. And these SCAG jackasses usually hold the meetings during the day when they know most people are busy doing something else. You're not getting there if you have a job or kids. Just a scammy lot all around, trying to stay in the shadows. And of course there's no 20 year olds out there that are into this kind of stuff yet that could show up. They are still stuck in their inconsequential college identity politics paradigm that many will never break out of.

There's a clip on youtube, that I'll see if I can find later today and post it, but some really dark skinned Mexican guy drives into one of these meetings from his house in one of the inland lake towns - I think Lake Arrowhead - so 2-3 hours of driving. He goes to the meeting, is the only lay citizen there...... they give him him 3 minutes to speak.....giant clock projected on a white screen counting him down. He's talking about planning issues. The whole meeting is about planning. Nothing even in the most PC person would consider racial in his speech. It's about planning. He objects to one particular facet of the plan that he's an expert on, toll roads, picks it apart beautifully.....and wraps up. While he is going back to his seat, some grown *** 50 year old Mexican woman mayor of like Huntington Park on the committee then says, "Sir, we don't need your racism in this forum." and they just don't address anything he says and go back to their agenda. California is the authoritarian version of the movie Idiocracy already at the top levels and unfortunately the whole country is following suit.
 
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I think China's main economic plan going forward is to expand their fleet of mobile execution vans quickly and harvest more organs from their citizens before the relatively docile Chinese population, that has been force mass migrated by the 100's of millions from the rural to urban existences to work factory jobs, realizes they are a becoming a victim of offshoring just as much as any first world nation, even though they aren't even a first world country yet, and that their jobs are/have been heading to even cheaper wage locales; and before the average Japanese salaryman has no more salary left , due to Abe's continued failed economic policies piled upon decades of other Japanese failed economic policy , to buy the booze required to ruin his own organs and have the need to buy replacement organs from the Chinese. The world is a giant confidence game.....
 
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