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Joseph Smith read a passage from the Book of Mormon, and turned the corner of the page to mark it.

Apparently still believed it meant something.

Not the way of a man who had made up a farce. . . . well, actually, no fraudster would have stood for a hundredth part of what Joseph stood up to in his life over that issue.
 
Joseph Smith never got ahead money-wise with his preaching. He was involved in starting an idealized little "bank" called an "anti-bank", supposed to be a co-op like a credit union, but it went bust in the Panic of 1837 that took out a lot of banks. Joseph was still paying off the judgments that the courts handed him in the aftermath right up to the end. Died with some debts, no fortune. Emma remarried after his death because she needed someone to support her.
 
Some say he sealed his testimony with his blood, as did his brother Hyrum. John Taylor and Wilford Woodruff lived to lead the Church into the twentieth century.
 
I wonder sometimes about the way things are with the LDS leadership today. How they stack up with the definition of "sociopath" and such. Knowing some of them, and knowing a lot about many of them, there are some issues, I'd say. Some folks really hype the organization and the authority, and make a case for unquestioning obedience. That's a problem. In my experience, there's plenty of LDS people who get the idea of having their own integrity, their own sense of things, their active conscience and principles of living. Often, they sorta give church leaders a pass when they say something really obtuse. . .. wrong. . . and just realize people all have their failings and weaknesses. I'd say that's a good thing to do. Call it "charity".
 
Well, there's a saying among Mormons. "If it wasn't the Lord's Church, the (leaders) would have destroyed it long ago." It's a statement of faith, a reason given why many Mormons stick with it, however hard it can be. If it wasn't for their actual relationship with our Heavenly Father, and Jesus, they wouldn't be there.
 
Well, it would be stoutly protested by Moe, and any self-respecting woman, that I should call the case I'm about to discuss, a "woman". It's like talking about a bank robber or a murderer, and making special note of his sex, as if it proves something about all similarly sexed individuals as a class. Sorta like a troll topic on gays not being as bad as Mormons, somehow, and then describing a particularly sociopathic example and insinuating such things happen naturally as a consequence of a certain religious belief.

I mean, the CC Camp drives boys off the ranch, makes them get jobs in the cities and send the pay home, to keep them safely away from the action. Jacob, in the Bible, mourned the loss of Joseph, and grieved a lifetime for him. No "lost boys" in the family of Israel.
 
So I'll introduce this case as a "Sociopath", and treat it even-handedly. Maybe I should label it "The Two Sociopaths" or something.
 
Dame has a history, Dude has a history.

Dame has gone through some marriages, is an "older Dame". Dude is a young buck with a job. Living in the same ward, in the same trailer park. Dame lives in the trailer by the main entrance to the park, starts sitting out on the lawn watching for Dude to go by, waves at him, smiles.

They get hitched, Mormon-style, and Dude is an instant step-Dad to several young-uns. Some years go by, some more kids. And then this:
 
stepkid1 starts sending porn to stepdad on the smartphone, draws obscene figures in the rainspots/mud on the rear window of the truck. Stepdad overhears some plan to ditch him. Dame has new Dude on the line. Dude goes in all barrels firing, big time. Dame doesn't budge. Dude goes to lawyer to start divorce, then goes home to get stuff.

The cops are there, moseying around the house. They ask him sorta nosey questions, like where's your computer? Your phone? OK, they take them and call them evidence. Dude talks a lot, thinks he can straighten it all out with reason. Too much talk. Cops ask more questions. Mind you, they have not arrested him yet, nor spoken of any specific crime or charge. They do not "Mirandize" him. After two hours they do arrest him, and handcuff him, and haul him off to jail.

The charges mount up, week by week. Child abuse, felony, multiple counts. Every trip to the court, and the State announces more charges. Not the day before, or the week before, but in the court, without notice to the defendant's attorney. No reasonable bargaining about the charges, they are all escalated every time the State's attorney smiles. The Feds are called in to examine evidence for possible federal charges.

The defendant's attorney does a miracle, and prevails with the accused to just shut up. Then says he needs time. The more time the better. So she does everything to stretch the legal proceedings out. "Time is on our side".

Five months later, at the arraignment, the charges are stated, scores. Attorney wins a couple of objections, and charges relating to friends of the stepkids are dismissed, and only two stepkids going forward with the charges.

OK, can't say much more except this. . . . This is not the first such case brought by Dame against a husband. Last time, it was Dude who was "on the line" while the hubby was being set up. Can't say what a jury is gonna make of it, or whether the judge will even let the whole story be told to them.
 
Rules for Dudes

1. Don't slow down for dames with smiles, waving at you.

2. Don't assume being in Church means anything.

3. If Dame has a history, do the footwork and go talk to people who have known her pretty well. Good advice for Dames, too, in regard to any Dude.

4. Read a psychiatry textbook on the subject of sociopathy. Just to be aware of the generalities.

5. Look for signs of conscience.

6. Look for signs of caring. Be careful. I don't mean obvious signs, the kinds that anyone would trundle out to make a show. I mean the signs that can't be contrived.

7. Take a while.

8. Think it over.

9. Consider your selection of a mate a matter of life or death.

10. Pray for God's mercy.

11. Be careful.

12. Watch out.

13. Go get a girl with no history.

14. Not a "damsel in distress", but a happy, self-sufficient girl who could care less if you have a job.

15. Except not stupid enough to marry you if you don't have one.

16. Discount the whole figure and looks department. Ten cents on the dollar for human kindness.

17. Make up about forty more rules.
 
Hillary's Way

babe said:
A number of years ago, there was a good movie.
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Election, starring Reese Witherspoon as the would-be President, of a high school, then.

When I chanced to see a sanitized version of it on late-night TV, I knew it was about Hillary. Somebody knew Hillary, and wrote a book on her. Called it fiction, to be sure, but modeled the character on Hillary.

The girl who would do anything to be Pres.
 
Sure, a magnificent obsession, and the sort of thing that could be construed as noble, as a good deed done to the world, to the universe.
 
I was watching Hillary at a little press gig a while ago, and she talked about having a woman to be Pres. Wouldn't that be nice.

OK, let's say I run for Pres, and get up and say how nice it would be to have a man to be Pres. Is that over the line, presenting that as a qualification for the job?

I mean, what difference does that make to the American voter?
 
I mean, I know we have all been told that "This is America" and "You Can Be President Someday". Tha'ts about half of the substance of an elementary education. I think nobody even tries to link in some supposedly essential qualifications, like being able to be nice to people. Or reading. Or math.

Have we had a President who understood math in the past seventy five years?
 
I'd like to see a Presidential Qualifications Runoff, on TV, hosted by the guy who does Jeopardy, with some questions like:
 
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