Lottery Standings
- Thread starter Stifle Tower
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I have a Kentucky edumacation .. and that right thar confuzed me.
Okay wait. I was actually being cool that you didn't know the story. True story, ask anyone around here (not named weezur). Keep your bail, guy, I got a yellow card.
I'll keep my bail.
How will you spend it?
Well .. you should learn the sirkicky story .. it's one that all jazzfanz should know, a classic .. happy to have served.
Okay. Laying down the gloves, I thought you were accusing me of making stuff up .. if not, cool.
theNBAnerd
Well-Known Member
up til 2 looking at the lottery teams with my nephew and i'm feeling better than ever about getting 8 or 9. here's why.
cleveland is out of it now. they're 4 wins behind GS, and in a 1-9 freefall. even if the Ws don't win another game, they'd have to go 4-8, which would be a massive improvement for them.
sacto is in a similar position after a 4-game losing streak. they're 3 wins behind and only have 9 games left. so they'd have to go 3-6 even in GSW loses the rest. given that their schedule is far tougher (@dal, @noh, @okc, por, sas, @cha, @okc, lal), i think we're safe there.
jersey is the team i was most afraid of (6-4 in last 10), but not anymore. lopez is shut down for the season, and their remaining sked only has two non-playoff teams, both on the road: (phi, @phi, bos, mia, nyk, @mil, phi, tor). they could absolutely go 0-8 or 1-7, but i doubt they'll do better than 2-6. which means even a 1-10 finish by the Ws assures us a coin toss, 2-9 means they stay in front.
toronto should also mildly worry us, except that they only have one really good opportunity to get a win: the season finale against the nets. up til then, it's @ind, phi, bos, @atl, atl, @mia, @det, @mil, then that nets game. so again, a bunch of teams fighting for playoff position, then two road games against lotto teams before finally a home winnable matchup. again, that's a 1-8 or 2-7 finish, so it only takes a win or two by GSW to stay in front.
detroit is another story. also just one win behind GS, but with a fairly easy sked - @orl, @cha, mil, chi, cle, @atl, min, tor, @ind, phi. they're also playing better recently, so they'll probably do at least 3-7, or maybe even 4-6 to finish.
bottom line - i think the pistons will leapfrog the Ws, but the nets and raptors probably won't, the cavs and kings pretty much can't.
cleveland is out of it now. they're 4 wins behind GS, and in a 1-9 freefall. even if the Ws don't win another game, they'd have to go 4-8, which would be a massive improvement for them.
sacto is in a similar position after a 4-game losing streak. they're 3 wins behind and only have 9 games left. so they'd have to go 3-6 even in GSW loses the rest. given that their schedule is far tougher (@dal, @noh, @okc, por, sas, @cha, @okc, lal), i think we're safe there.
jersey is the team i was most afraid of (6-4 in last 10), but not anymore. lopez is shut down for the season, and their remaining sked only has two non-playoff teams, both on the road: (phi, @phi, bos, mia, nyk, @mil, phi, tor). they could absolutely go 0-8 or 1-7, but i doubt they'll do better than 2-6. which means even a 1-10 finish by the Ws assures us a coin toss, 2-9 means they stay in front.
toronto should also mildly worry us, except that they only have one really good opportunity to get a win: the season finale against the nets. up til then, it's @ind, phi, bos, @atl, atl, @mia, @det, @mil, then that nets game. so again, a bunch of teams fighting for playoff position, then two road games against lotto teams before finally a home winnable matchup. again, that's a 1-8 or 2-7 finish, so it only takes a win or two by GSW to stay in front.
detroit is another story. also just one win behind GS, but with a fairly easy sked - @orl, @cha, mil, chi, cle, @atl, min, tor, @ind, phi. they're also playing better recently, so they'll probably do at least 3-7, or maybe even 4-6 to finish.
bottom line - i think the pistons will leapfrog the Ws, but the nets and raptors probably won't, the cavs and kings pretty much can't.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Agree, nerd.
Detroit will definitely pass GS and Sacramento looks like they've already packed it in. NJ and Toronto are the threats we need to worry about.
But you're counting on 1-2 wins from a W's team that will be favored to lose every game until the last two: home against NO and home against a SA team that will likely be resting all their starters. And if they're in position to finish 7th with 2 losses, they'll do it.
Detroit will definitely pass GS and Sacramento looks like they've already packed it in. NJ and Toronto are the threats we need to worry about.
But you're counting on 1-2 wins from a W's team that will be favored to lose every game until the last two: home against NO and home against a SA team that will likely be resting all their starters. And if they're in position to finish 7th with 2 losses, they'll do it.
theNBAnerd
Well-Known Member
yeah, i think that's the question, is how committed are the players to sucking? i still hold that the players have no motivation to tank, so if all it takes is for them to get one or two more wins, i think we're in good shape.
also, with 11 more games, they have more opportunities to pick up a win than toronto or NJN. currently at 22, i think if they get to 24 then the worst-case scenario is a tie with toronto and/or NJN.
@den - loss
@por - probable loss, but you never know
dal - they beat dallas at home by 24 just last month, post trade and with stephen injured
@lac - loss
sas - the spurs might still be resting guys and aiming for #2 so as to avoid a 2nd-round mathcup with memphis
lal - believe it or not, they've been in every game with the lakes this season, and kobe might be missing some games
@dal - loss
@hou - loss
@min - you never know this late in the season with two surefire lotto teams
noh - should win, unless they TRY to lose
sas - again, depends on who plays
Bingo. The Warriors have several players--Charles Jenkins, Dominic Mcguire, Nate Robinson, Richard Jefferson--who are trying to prove that they belong in the league. This is their chance to prove themselves as players and shine. They want to win, which is why they beat Denver the other night and actually pushed the Jazz until the final minute. I think the Warriors will win a few games. They've won 2 of their last 3. Minnesota might try to out-tank them also. I think the Ws can pull off a couple more wins at home. Developing these players might be as important to GS as getting a pick at #7.
Pretty much how I've been thinking also. I think there are 2 big games left. Toronto @ Detroit. Hopefully Detroit can beat them. Then NJ at Tor to end the season, I think it comes down to this game, and I think we'll be cheering for Tor.
GS can win any game at home, because their home court advantage is strong and forces teams to play down to their level.
Well, I guess GSW is eliminating any possibility to get a win against Denver this time. Down 35 pts. Fortunately, Toronto and Detroit both picked up losses today.
And Minnesota lost too, by 24 points @ home (GS isn't even losing that bad at home).
From what I can tell, T'pups are using the rest of the season to solely boost Love's stats.
Craig K. Manscill
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I said it before and I'll say it again. We're getting this pick. I heard those fools on 1280 or 1320 or whatever say "Sorry Jazzfans, we're not getting that pick." Listen to the wise people, like old Craig.
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