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Lowry anybody?

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I've been reading some Toronto Raptors fan forums and they seem to be of the opinion that the Raptors will blow it up in the summer and Lowry will be gone in the summer and a lot of them are willing to trade him. This trade was proposed in the RealGM forums and a lot of neutral fans think the value is great for both teams when considering what they will be trying to do:

Utah gets Kyle Lowry, Patrick Patterson
Torotonto gets #12, Trey Burke, GS 2017 pick, non-guaranteed contracts



Lowry fell off a cliff in the second part of the season, but he still will be a massive upgrade at the position for us. A lot of people think his fall in efficiency came from overuse and overloading him for too long. Do you like that trade and would you do it? It will give us a quality point to play starter minutes either behind Exum or ahead of him. With us wanting to give Exum serious minutes, we probably won't overload Lowry and get better minutes from him than what he's been giving the Raptors last several months.

Thoughts?
 
not a fan of Lowry - i don't know that he's a locker room fit is he? maybe I'm thinking of someone else.
 
I think I wouldn't mind it, would Patterson and Booker be a bit redundant? Maybe look into moving one of them later/in the same deal.
 
Eminence said:
I think I wouldn't mind it, would Patterson and Booker be a bit redundant? Maybe look into moving one of them later/in the same deal.
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Most probably we will need to trade Booker's contract for salary matching purposes.
 
stitches said:
Most probably we will need to trade Booker's contract for salary matching purposes.
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So your trading 2 firsts, Burke, Booker and other non-guaranteed contracts for Lowry and Patterson. One of those picks being a lottery pick from this year? I think I'd have to pass, that's a ton to spend for a guy that doesn't fit the profile of the rest of the team. I like Lowry I just won't want the Jazz to spend that much. Hell I'm not sure he's worth the #12 pick let alone all that other stuff you are trading him for. I know virtually nothing about Patrick Patterson. But find it hard to believe he's worth Booker, Trey, and a future 1st round pick.
 
gregbroncs said:
So your trading 2 firsts, Burke, Booker and other non-guaranteed contracts for Lowry and Patterson. One of those picks being a lottery pick from this year? I think I'd have to pass, that's a ton to spend for a guy that doesn't fit the profile of the rest of the team. I like Lowry I just won't want the Jazz to spend that much. Hell I'm not sure he's worth the #12 pick let alone all that other stuff you are trading him for. I know virtually nothing about Patrick Patterson. But find it hard to believe he's worth Booker, Trey, and a future 1st round pick.
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Lowry is an all-star PG on a good contract. I think he's well worth #12 and a future pick. Patterson is a great stretch 4, I'd say he's probably worth a late first, early second on his own.
 
gregbroncs said:
So your trading 2 firsts, Burke, Booker and other non-guaranteed contracts for Lowry and Patterson. One of those picks being a lottery pick from this year? I think I'd have to pass, that's a ton to spend for a guy that doesn't fit the profile of the rest of the team. I like Lowry I just won't want the Jazz to spend that much. Hell I'm not sure he's worth the #12 pick let alone all that other stuff you are trading him for. I know virtually nothing about Patrick Patterson. But find it hard to believe he's worth Booker, Trey, and a future 1st round pick.
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This is crazy talk. An all-star PG isn't worth the #12 pick in a mediocre draft?
 
stitches said:
Lowry is an all-star PG on a good contract. I think he's well worth #12 and a future pick. Patterson is a great stretch 4, I'd say he's probably worth a late first, early second on his own.
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An all-star in the East. He doesn't sniff the all star team in the west. Is Patterson worth a late first, early second and Booker plus probably other players and Burke? I'm not even sure he's a better player for this team than Booker. I like Lowry, I don't think he fits this team and 2 first for a guy like him still seems steep to me. Especially if the team is blowing it up anyway.
 
White Chocolate said:
This is crazy talk. An all-star PG isn't worth the #12 pick in a mediocre draft?
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All-star is an overrated term. The NBA all-star selection process is a complete farce. And he plays in the East, how many decent PG's are there to compete with for that spot? Out west he doesn't even get a mention.
 
gregbroncs said:
An all-star in the East. He doesn't sniff the all star team in the west. Is Patterson worth a late first, early second and Booker plus probably other players and Burke? I'm not even sure he's a better player for this team than Booker. I like Lowry, I don't think he fits this team and 2 first for a guy like him still seems steep to me. Especially if the team is blowing it up anyway.
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The fit is questionable indeed(mainly about what we are trying to do defensively), but the value I think is very fair to say the least... when I saw it I actually thought, "no way they are doing this trade"... I think the only reason they would do it is if they decide to blow it up. I think you do not realize what a top 10 PG(and he is one for sure) can do for us. I'm confident Quin can use him and fit him into the system just fine.
 
He would be a huge upgrade that we would otherwise not have. What's the point of hoarding assets and never using them? It's unlikely we'll get someone as good as Lowry in FA. Jumping on that deal is a no-brainer, IMO.
 
That would be a great deal but that doesn't mean we should do it. I don't think we'll do our blockbuster trade where we cash in some of these assets happens until we are ready to contend in a couple years.
 
I don't understand all the Lowry hate. Toronto would have won like 20 games without him.

Starting Lineup:

Amir Johnson
Terrence Ross
Jonas Valanciunas
Kyle Lowry
DeMar DeRozan

Amir and Lowry are the only two I would even want on a Jazz roster.
 
I would absolutely do it... My only hesitation would be the psyche of Exum. Lowry is a good defender has been top 5 RPM for his position the last two years. There have also been some locker room issues but I don't think he's rondoesque.

We also get a good complimentary front court piece.

There is a chance Exum is never as good as Lowry is now... I think he'll get there but this deal would allow us to compete now and Exum would still get enough time to develop.
 
davidbenoit said:
I don't understand all the Lowry hate. Toronto would have won like 20 games without him.

Starting Lineup:

Amir Johnson
Terrence Ross
Jonas Valanciunas
Kyle Lowry
DeMar DeRozan

Amir and Lowry are the only two I would even want on a Jazz roster.
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And he is playing hurt right now so don't judge him on his current production.
 
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