Magic at Jazz GET IT RIGHT UP YE!!!
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lmao yeah, that was what I was referring to when I asked if the refs were trolling.
Mario is Eastern European so he is probably GOAT in MVP's eyes.
Jazz4ever
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So yah...you're an idiot.
MVP
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walking and playing pro sports is a bit of a difference?
Stifle Tower
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Horrible game plan (or execution) on Payton. Jazz made him look like Gary, not Elfrid, Payton. Defensive F's for Hill and Dante.
Hayward was great. Gobert was a stud and Favs had a very strong game. Ingles with ice in those Aussie veins. Great win against a team playing over their heads. Jazz owned the last five minutes. Quin owned the last 5 minutes. This team is learning how to fight and overcome adversity.o
Hayward was great. Gobert was a stud and Favs had a very strong game. Ingles with ice in those Aussie veins. Great win against a team playing over their heads. Jazz owned the last five minutes. Quin owned the last 5 minutes. This team is learning how to fight and overcome adversity.o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWJ79ZlXcPY#t=25.888795
@ 1:44, this was the sequence of the game. Gobert is incredible.
@ 1:44, this was the sequence of the game. Gobert is incredible.
NAOS
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enchilada_style
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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MVP
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Quoting some idiot doctor who says there is no need for surgery with torn ACL...makes you even bigger idiot.
It is somewhat rare but people can heal from torn ACLs without surgery and get back to being a high level athlete.
I have trained more than 1 athlete who decided not to have ACL surgery and got back to competing.
I personally have had ACL surgery on a fully torn ACL and waited for 9 months after the injury to have surgery. In that 9 months I was still running and getting my regular workouts in. I regret getting the surgery personally, I do think it is good for some people and it depends on the severity and more importantly what else was torn along with the ACL.
MVP
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Competing at what level? Lccal amateur leagues?
I doubt any professional athlete would hope to recover from completely torn ACL without surgery. Too much unknown and risks.
Maybe you should do a little research on this subject before declaring people idiots. There are plenty of athletes out there who have played on a torn ACL for significant time without surgery. Some have gotten surgery later, some rehabbed and did not have surgery. Currently evidence is starting to lean towards not having surgery as a better option if nothing else in the knee was damaged. DeJuan Blair is one of the more famous ones since he played in the NBA for 5 years without ACLs in either knee.
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Mickey Mantle tore an acl his rookie season. Never repaired (not done in the 50s).
Joe Namath. John Elway. Both played full careers with unrepaired torn acl. Dejuan Blair had surgery on both knees, but both ligaments dissolved due to extensive damage. It is possible to still be a pro athlete without acl repair. I am sure these are the exceptions, not the norm...
They are exceptions. Genetics play a huge factor in the ability to forgo surgery as well as what else got damaged. It is more often that the MCL or meniscus gets damaged as well. But it is becoming more popular again to try and rehab instead of surgery.
There have been a few studies on this subject. Here is one that has been talked about a lot and more are being done.
https://www.webmd.com/pain-management/knee-pain/news/20100721/torn-acl-may-heal-without-surgery
MVP
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From your article
"On the other hand, a patient who is a relatively low-level recreational athlete -- Levy offers the example of a 35-year-old cyclist -- may be better off with bracing and rehabilitation. Only if such patients have further ACL problems would surgery be the preferred option. But a collegiate soccer player might not be able to return to play without ACL reconstruction."
MVP
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Just knowing knee anatomy and how it works it seems unreasonable to expect that it will be as stable or as strong as before without surgical repair. ACL won't repair itself. Fibrous tissue which will build within joint with time won't be providing the same stability and strength as ACL. Just anatomically impossible. So yeah, some rare genetic marvels may do well without surgery - Just I think it is safe to say they won't be running faster or jumping higher than without it. Again, in my honest opinion if person is professional athlete every self respecting doctor will recommend surgery.
Witty Username
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Quin got a tech, and dropped a postgame F bomb live. Can't be happier
Spinoza
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Impressive.