Malone has always been full of charisma. However, he says whatever he wants, so if you think he's speaking the truth about all of this, you might want to reconsider. Having said that, he was a warrior and did so much for this franchise and city. Cyrone's mock dialogue was hilarious and does not seem that far fetched, but if the Jazz could figure out somehow to bring Malone on board to train our young bigs, it would be awesome. Mainly because of the attitude toward the team and competing. Kanter could learn the most from him but so could Favors. If these guys could get a bit of Malone's competitive fire and emulate his effort and swagger, they could be incredible together. The Jazz should send Favors and Kanter to train with Malone over the summer for starters.
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Yup.
You have a HOFer who worked his *** off and never went ring chasing, yet you can't give him even a token position on the staff as a big man coach? I have plenty of reasons to dislike the Miller Enterprise, but this one is a huge WTF to me. This is how they are repaying loyalty--It's a one way street to the employer.
enchilada_style
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The problem with hiring Karl as a coach is that we'll need to add a translator to the payroll.
First of all, I have always been a big fan of Karl. I thought it was shameful how some Jazz fans treated him when he was here and when he left to play for the Lakers. I have always appreciated how he isn't afraid to voice his opinion but probably the biggest reason why Malone isn't coaching with the Jazz is because he needs to spout off all the time. The Jazz are a very conservative and secret organization, will Karl around he would overshadow everyone else.
I do think it is a good idea to ask Kanter and Favors to spend some time with Karl during the summer. I do not think Karl needs permission to workout with NBA players. If he did why not call the Jazz and offer your services or ask if he could talk to the young guys. Maybe the Jazz don't want to marginalize Sanders not that he is part of the staff.
While Karl is entertaining, he is speculating on what went down with DW and he is bias because he loves Jerry Sloan. I am not saying that DW and Sloan didn't argue but he has no evidence of DW calling the GM.
I do think it is a good idea to ask Kanter and Favors to spend some time with Karl during the summer. I do not think Karl needs permission to workout with NBA players. If he did why not call the Jazz and offer your services or ask if he could talk to the young guys. Maybe the Jazz don't want to marginalize Sanders not that he is part of the staff.
While Karl is entertaining, he is speculating on what went down with DW and he is bias because he loves Jerry Sloan. I am not saying that DW and Sloan didn't argue but he has no evidence of DW calling the GM.
Stifle Tower
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Hey, when did Karl get baptized into the LDS Church? I know Thurl Bailey did but I didn't realize Karl was a card-carrying Mormon. Please inform Tom Monson so he can update the LDS church records.
I've brought up the issues of Demetrius Bell, the Ford twins and the inappropriate remarks to Kobe's wife (or should I say soon-to-be-ex-wife) several times on this board. I deplore Karl's conduct as a human being. But his conduct as a Jazz player, as a loyalist to Sloan and the Jazz organization is remarkable - and commendable. I remember the attitude and actions of the Jazz organization back when Karl went to the Lakers. It was mentioned several times in the years leading up to that moment that many expected Stockton, Malone and Sloan to retire together. When Stockton announced his retirement and Karl didn't also follow suit, I think the Jazz were caught off-guard. Similar to when Boozer said he was going to opt out - and get his raise regardless - and then didn't. KOC had already put the wheels in motion...as another poster mentioned, he was pursuing a couple of top-tier FA's, including Malone's replacement (KOC hoping for Brand). Karl was effectively shoved out the door by the Jazz not offerong him a contract. So yes, he has a right to be bitter. Surprisingly, though, he remains loyal to the idea of the Jazz organization.
He speaks his mind - as hard as it is to understand sometimes. And for that reason, he'll never be invited to coach. You have to toe the company line as a coach and Karl can't/won't do that. But I have a feeling he and Jerry talk. There weren't many teammates still left from the Malone era (AK and Harpring the only ones, I believe), but I'm sure he had other sources that told him EXACTLY what went on. If not from Sloan himself, maybe the trainer, maybe Johnson.
You have at least five other accounts. So what?
I can't wait to neg rep this with my 5 other accounts once I spread some rep around.
Stifle Tower
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When asked about Karl's remarks, KOC first said "no comment."
Pressed further by reporters, O'Connor added, "we will always continue to explore every avenue to make the team better."
Haha so true
SojoDave
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KOC responds with "like I said, you know, it is what it is". Vintage KOC.
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Is there a link or podcast to listen to this?
Weezur
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First, off....does he have ANY proof to his D Will theory? It's clear that he has a bias against KOC and his D Will story brings out that bias.
Ofcourse, all of that might have happened...but how did he get in the locker room and all?
And I'm glad he's not coaching Kanter....he was one of the great players but he's got too much non sense to him and Kanter needs no part of that.
What'd he say about Favors???
Ofcourse, all of that might have happened...but how did he get in the locker room and all?
And I'm glad he's not coaching Kanter....he was one of the great players but he's got too much non sense to him and Kanter needs no part of that.
What'd he say about Favors???
fallenchicken
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This is absurd. He was a great player, so they have to hire him as a coach despite the fact that he wouldn't make a good one and there's no room for him?
Grandpa Jazz
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1280 the zone will replay the entire 4 hours again today. Don't know what time, but tune in, i am sure they will mention it.
Grandpa Jazz
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I doubt they can find someone who is fluent in "Malone"
That said! The man is worth listening too. All of you folks who feel he is making things up as part of a vendetta or from injured pride or just from malice, well, a lot of people
never did "get" Karl Malone. Too easy to ridicule because of the way he speaks. If you can't see the honesty in what he says, if you dismiss his loyalty to the team, if you are
judging him on a few mistakes he made in life (everyone makes them, even you, even me). At just about any point in Karl's career he could of left Utah and went big city and made even more money
in the process. His reputation would of been greater, and revered much more widely. Yet, he did not. I once heard him say in a radio interview about 4-5 years into his career that he
did not care about nor want more money than the Jazz were giving him. Because if he couldn't take care of his family, their children and their children's children on that much money then he
would be a fool and no amount of money would change that. That folks, is truth and wisdom. Karl (and John) were the best things that ever happened to this franchise, or ever will happen.
His total respect for John and what John did for him is evident anytime John's name comes up.
Anyone find anything to criticize about the things he said about our young players? My wish is each and every one of them has the chance to hear what he said. They could only benefit.
By the way. perhaps he did this radio show for two reasons. One appears to be as a way of getting attention and hence donations for a family with a gravely ill young boy. Pure Karl. Another reason was,
i think, that he really had a lot of fun doing this. Also, pure Karl! Thanks Karl, for everything!
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Wouldn't you love to see Kanter and Favors working out with Karl? Seems to me that's exactly what they need. More toughness, hitting the weightroom, and being
pushed by the best PF of all time.
pushed by the best PF of all time.
Brown Notes
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Thank you for my sig.
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He said that Favors has great talent but needs to get in shape. I think what he meant by "getting in shape" is Sloan shape. I remember Jerry complaining about players' offseason work when preseason workouts would start.
He went on to say that bigmen who run the floor well are nightmares for opponent defenses, and particularly for opponent bigmen. That might be an advice for our young guys.
Brown Notes
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I would be totally down with Karl running an offseason program. He can't be an in-season coach because of his Newt like propensity to pronounce absurdities. It would become a distraction.