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Malone disses Jordan

He had to pick Stock even though it should be Magic but Pippen is a joke He does not belong in the top list of anything NBA. Karl being Karl
 
carolinajazz said:
.....Stockton has two unbreakable NBA records. He was at least in the top 3 for basketball brains and IQ. Why does he not belong? Oh, and he won about 70% of his games!
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Magic was better. Could play all 5 positions. Averaged more assists per game than Stockton. 5 Championships, 3 NBA MVPs. Why is this is even a question. Stockton played 600 more games no wonder he has more assists and steals.

You can argue Stockton as a top 5 point guard, but not a top five any position player. This coming from a guy who rooted for Stock his entire career.
 
The Thriller said:
Lol!

This just confirms to me that Malone really is thee biggest hardass in the entire league. He knows he was dissing the best player in the history of the game. He knows that this isn't going to win him any friends. He knows that MJ is going to take it personally and bitch about it. But Malone doesn't care. He does things on his own terms and doesn't give an F what others think.

I love it!!!

And it's so refreshing because the NBA today is just one big popstar party. Lebron spanking chalk, Dwight Howard doing a comedy routine, everyone dancing and goofing around, and high fives to top rival players.

The league needs to bring back guys like Bird and Malone. Authentic hard asses who aren't afraid of being chippy, ruffling some feathers, and who aren't concerned with being beloved by all.
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I agree. I think Joakim Noah and Roy Hibbert are as close to that as we're gonna see.
 
HipHopAnonymous said:
Magic was better. Could play all 5 positions. Averaged more assists per game than Stockton. 5 Championships, 3 NBA MVPs. Why is this is even a question. Stockton played 600 more games no wonder he has more assists and steals.

You can argue Stockton as a top 5 point guard, but not a top five any position player. This coming from a guy who rooted for Stock his entire career.
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You can argue that Stockton is a top 2 PG.
 
HipHopAnonymous said:
Magic was better. Could play all 5 positions. Averaged more assists per game than Stockton. 5 Championships, 3 NBA MVPs. Why is this is even a question. Stockton played 600 more games no wonder he has more assists and steals.

You can argue Stockton as a top 5 point guard, but not a top five any position player. This coming from a guy who rooted for Stock his entire career.
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But why would you need someone who can play all 5 positions when you have 3 or 4 other people who can play all 5 positions? why not take a true floor general like stockton? especially when you are karl malone and you had an incredible career which can be directly credited in large part to playing on a well structured team with stockton...
 
HipHopAnonymous said:
Perhaps. But Magic was clearly better.
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I agree. But I can see someone taking Stockton over Magic depending on the other starting 4.

Edit: For example. Say a starting 5 of Shaq, Malone, Lebron and Jordan. I'd take Stockton over Magic as I think Stockton compliments that group better than Magic does. With those guys on the floor you do not need another scorer.
 
fgcamel said:
But why would you need someone who can play all 5 positions when you have 3 or 4 other people who can play all 5 positions? why not take a true floor general like stockton? especially when you are karl malone and you had an incredible career which can be directly credited in large part to playing on a well structured team with stockton...
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No one else in the history of the NBA could play all 5 positions and be an All-Star at every one. Magic could.
 
Stoked said:
I agree. But I can see someone taking Stockton over Magic depending on the other starting 4.

Edit: For example. Say a starting 5 of Shaq, Malone, Lebron and Jordan. I'd take Stockton over Magic as I think Stockton compliments that group better than Magic does. With those guys on the floor you do not need another scorer.
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I completely disagree. Magic is bigger, stronger, better defender, better passer, and won more with better players. Magic is the best all around player ever, and maybe the be glue guy ever. He is PERFECT for a superteam.
 
Stoked said:
I actually saw a video of when TNT did this. They had about 6 guys picking and they had a board of about 60 players (all retired) that they could choose from. There were some damn interesting choices and teams on there.

Just think of all the names and combos you could have on your team.
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That's the same video that Charles Barkley took ALLEN IVERSON WITH THE FIRST OVERALL PICK
 
green said:
I completely disagree. Magic is bigger, stronger, better defender, better passer, and won more with better players. Magic is the best all around player ever, and maybe the be glue guy ever. He is PERFECT for a superteam.
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Fair enough. Debatable.

Yes Magic is a better player than Stockton.
 
Shad said:
That's the same video that Charles Barkley took ALLEN IVERSON WITH THE FIRST OVERALL PICK
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Why are we TALKING IN LOUD NOISES? Does Charles mind numbing pick somehow make the video unwatchable?
 
Stoked said:
I agree. But I can see someone taking Stockton over Magic depending on the other starting 4.

Edit: For example. Say a starting 5 of Shaq, Malone, Lebron and Jordan. I'd take Stockton over Magic as I think Stockton compliments that group better than Magic does. With those guys on the floor you do not need another scorer.
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Still take Magic. Best all-time assists per game still is the very best choice? Plus he is a winner. 5 titles. Won over 74% of his playoff games.
 
HipHopAnonymous said:
Still take Magic. Best all-time assists per game still is the very best choice? Plus he is a winner. 5 titles. Won over 74% of his playoff games.
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I just think Stockton fits my mold better. I never claimed he is better I just like him better for his style of play. With Lebron, Jordan, Malone and Shaq you have enough high profile showboaters.
 
Stoked said:
I just think Stockton fits my mold better. I never claimed he is better I just like him better for his style of play. With Lebron, Jordan, Malone and Shaq you have enough high profile showboaters.
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Which begs the question, how many showboaters can you actually have on one team before they can't coexist together? I think three is pushing the limit, so Stock would be the clear choice here. Might wanna rethink one of the other four as well.. Throw in a Duncan or Bill Russell instead of Malone and Shaq. Or go outside and pick up Bird or Jerry West instead of Lebron or Mike.
 
This is like debating who the best quarterbacks are of all time.

MJ played in pratically a different sport than Lebron and some of these current players. Stockton was great in the time he played in. However, the game has changed so much. While I will always love those HOFers from back in the day it would have been interesting to see how different players from different eras match up. Imagine freak shows like Westbrook or Rose in the 80s and 90s? Some of the bigs of yesterday might average 50 pts per game in today's bigless league. A deadeye like Dirk or Curry might be unstoppable 30 years ago. MJ, Karl, and Bird may have destroyed today's pansie soft flopping stars.
 
ElRoach0 said:
Which begs the question, how many showboaters can you actually have on one team before they can't coexist together? I think three is pushing the limit, so Stock would be the clear choice here. Might wanna rethink one of the other four as well.. Throw in a Duncan or Bill Russell instead of Malone and Shaq. Or go outside and pick up Bird or Jerry West instead of Lebron or Mike.
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I think the Dream Team showed that you can have a team of "show boaters" and be okay if all the players are focused on winning. Magic and Michael would keep everyone else in line.
 
ElRoach0 said:
Which begs the question, how many showboaters can you actually have on one team before they can't coexist together? I think three is pushing the limit, so Stock would be the clear choice here. Might wanna rethink one of the other four as well.. Throw in a Duncan or Bill Russell instead of Malone and Shaq. Or go outside and pick up Bird or Jerry West instead of Lebron or Mike.
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Magic is EXACLTY what you need on a team of showboaters. The dude is hall of fame glue. All he cared about was winning, and he would keep everyone motivated to win.

Give me Magic and Jordan, and I'll beat whatever team you throw on the court 90% of the time.
 
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