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Marijuana: Facts, Myths, and plain old Stupidity.

GVC said:
I was a little high my last day working at a sheet metal factory (about 3 1/2 years ago). It was unintentional, and I got through the day fine, but I was a little worried.

I knew it wasn't a good idea, just as I know it's not a good idea to be high when studying for or writing exams, driving, etc.
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Well that sounds like it could be a little dangerous. I wouldn't get high if fingers, arms, or heads could be lost. My best getting high at work story was when I was 16. I had a job in warehouse for a company that sold 'educational products.' One of those products was those certificates you get in grade school with a scratch n sniff sticker that says, "Grape Job!" My grape job was to count out 10 of them, not 9 or 11, and put them into a bag. Over and over and over and over again. I was not well paid. Very few people I worked with spoke English, though it seemed like great conversations were happening in Spanish. I'd barely ever smoked pot at that time, but this one dude I worked with got me high at lunch one afternoon. It wasn't a grape job after that, but I definitely had more fun counting than I ever had since I was 6.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Most kids I knew/know got their alcohol from their parent's liquor cabinet or refrigerator. Alcohol is ridiculously easy for kids to get. I saw far far more kids with beer in a thermos than with marijuana when I was in high school. If marijuana were legal and more parents (or uncles, cousins, friends' parents, etc.) used it then it would be far more accessible for kids than it is now when they have to find someone to buy it from. Almost every kid I knew who drank or smoked in high school got the cigs or booze from mom and dad (or uncle, et al.). Almost none of them had to find someone to help them buy it, they just took it.
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Alcohol is ridiculously easy to get because most parents keep it around. Pot would rise to that level if more parents had some sort of "weed cabinet" and kept it around in there, but considering the social acceptance of one compared to the other I doubt you would see that, unless that acceptance rose with legality.

And I saw way more pot in high school than booze, but that's the crowd I hung around with. Plus it's a bit easier to go to class high than drunk, at least in terms of getting away with it.

Plus, smokes were a pain to get when I was in high school until my good friend turned 18. Before that we had either go into a store and hoped they didn't ID (most did) or buy packs from some kid who worked at a Walgreens and stole cartons and sold it to us on the side). My parents didn't smoke, my friends parents didn't smoke, so there was no parents to rip it off from.
 
GVC said:
I'm curious what the average price of cannabis is at medical marijuana dispensaries in Colorado and California. Nate?
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Somewhat expensive.

Top grade stuff (and it all pretty much is, but there is some variation especially with how it's cured) runs from $40-50 an eighth, though prices are cheaper if you sign over your caregiver status to a particular club. On the other hand, perfectly good slightly less than top grade stuff can be had for $25-30 an eighth. The top level prices are no different than the were/are on the black market, and I'm talking about black market prices long before these clubs came around.

One thing I haven't seen in 4-5 years is that awful Mexican brick crap. That being said, I'm in a small minority who misses stuff that was around that potency (well maybe not that weak, but a bit stronger than it). Pot seems to come only in really strong strength, much like if you had a liquor store that only sold whiskey and everclear. I sorta long for lower potency pot that isn't the awful taste/smell/look quality that the Mexican crap weed is. Sorta like the craft beer of weed if you will. Unfortunately, it will take a completely legal market to see that since I'm admittedly in a niche market for that.
 
Nate505 said:
Somewhat expensive.

Top grade stuff (and it all pretty much is, but there is some variation especially with how it's cured) runs from $40-50 an eighth, though prices are cheaper if you sign over your caregiver status to a particular club. On the other hand, perfectly good slightly less than top grade stuff can be had for $25-30 an eighth. The top level prices are no different than the were/are on the black market, and I'm talking about black market prices long before these clubs came around.

One thing I haven't seen in 4-5 years is that awful Mexican brick crap. That being said, I'm in a small minority who misses stuff that was around that potency (well maybe not that weak, but a bit stronger than it). Pot seems to come only in really strong strength, much like if you had a liquor store that only sold whiskey and everclear. I sorta long for lower potency pot that isn't the awful taste/smell/look quality that the Mexican crap weed is. Sorta like the craft beer of weed if you will. Unfortunately, it will take a completely legal market to see that since I'm admittedly in a niche market for that.
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Man, in my stupid days we used to go to 'The Door.' It was this really crappy house in a really crappy neighborhood where you'd hand 20 dollars around a door and get back an old fashioned sandwich baggie of weed. Sophisticate that I am now, I wouldn't piss on that dirty weed. But back then, you got really high off it and saw Hunt For Red October for the 12th time at the SuperSaver Cinema (2 dollars!). To this day I still look grimly at one of my oldest buddies when I see him and say, "We're going to kill Ramius. We're going to kill a friend." We crack up every time.
 
Scat said:
Serious question. How long do the effects last? Do you just take a couple of tokes or do you have to smoke an entire joint? Is once a day enough or do you have to blaze up every couple of hours?
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I usually end up doing it around three times a day, sometimes more. It usually takes between 2-6 tokes to get the job done depending. Usually not that many though because I grow some very potent medical grade stuff. Also I often make oil out of it and vaporize it with a bell and pad- that is much more potent and I'll only toke that 1-2 times.
 
I can't speak for other high schools but pot is a way bigger issue where I teach versus alcohol.
 
Nate505 said:
Somewhat expensive.

Top grade stuff (and it all pretty much is, but there is some variation especially with how it's cured) runs from $40-50 an eighth, though prices are cheaper if you sign over your caregiver status to a particular club. On the other hand, perfectly good slightly less than top grade stuff can be had for $25-30 an eighth. The top level prices are no different than the were/are on the black market, and I'm talking about black market prices long before these clubs came around.

One thing I haven't seen in 4-5 years is that awful Mexican brick crap. That being said, I'm in a small minority who misses stuff that was around that potency (well maybe not that weak, but a bit stronger than it). Pot seems to come only in really strong strength, much like if you had a liquor store that only sold whiskey and everclear. I sorta long for lower potency pot that isn't the awful taste/smell/look quality that the Mexican crap weed is. Sorta like the craft beer of weed if you will. Unfortunately, it will take a completely legal market to see that since I'm admittedly in a niche market for that.
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I'm sure you've done this, but make a spliff with tobacco. Hash with tobacco is almost a different experience altogether (almost exlusively a mood booster and body high).

And for the record, I only smoke tobacco minimally (in the rare above scenarios, in addition to a cigar or some kind of hooka crap once in a blue moon).
 
Nate505 said:
Somewhat expensive.

Top grade stuff (and it all pretty much is, but there is some variation especially with how it's cured) runs from $40-50 an eighth, though prices are cheaper if you sign over your caregiver status to a particular club. On the other hand, perfectly good slightly less than top grade stuff can be had for $25-30 an eighth. The top level prices are no different than the were/are on the black market, and I'm talking about black market prices long before these clubs came around.

One thing I haven't seen in 4-5 years is that awful Mexican brick crap. That being said, I'm in a small minority who misses stuff that was around that potency (well maybe not that weak, but a bit stronger than it). Pot seems to come only in really strong strength, much like if you had a liquor store that only sold whiskey and everclear. I sorta long for lower potency pot that isn't the awful taste/smell/look quality that the Mexican crap weed is. Sorta like the craft beer of weed if you will. Unfortunately, it will take a completely legal market to see that since I'm admittedly in a niche market for that.
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I think there's quite a few of us that miss that Mexican shwag from back in the day. Used to be able to get that stuff for so cheap, and it worked and lasted. When green went up to $50-60 that shwag kinda disappeared. Of course these days it wouldn't do much to me with the grade I am used to.
 
But I suppose all this ******** will just make the inevitable victory over these ignorant ****ing fascists that much sweeter.
 
No, I have not read this thread. I'm not even really sure what its about. But I'm going to give some of my thoughts on the subject of "weed"

Legalize it. I witnessed what medical marijuana can do first hand. I had a very good friend finally pass away last week. He had been battling with cancer for the last few years. He was in a lot of pain and while he was on pain meds he was either not himself or practically catatonic. Once he started to use medical marijuana instead of pain meds he was able to enjoy the rest of his life a lot better. He wasn't in as much pain and was able to function and be himself a lot more than when he was on pain meds.

I think weed can be dangerous when abused, but alcohol and meds can be WAAAAAY worse. I think they should legalize weed and make alcohol illegal. Alcohol has ruined the lives of a lot family and friends, weed hasnt done anything to them. Had a family member who drove a snow plow in Alaska run into a car full of teenagers and killed them all. The teenagers were drinking and had not pulled all the way off the side of the road, and my family member had also been drinking. He is now serving the rest of his life in prison.

I really enjoy smoking but havent done it in a couple years. The only reason why I don't do it is because I now am trying to live a super healthy lifestyle with a very healthy diet. When I smoke I can't help but eat a tremendous amount of junk food. I feel just as "high" a hour after taking an ambien as I do after I take a couple rips.

The weed is a gateway drug BS is such a joke I'm not even going to bother really going into it. Yes people who do hard drugs usually did weed first, but if weed didnt exists they would still do the hard drugs they just wouldnt have smoked first. Weed itself had nothing to do with the hard drugs.
 
GVC said:
Anyway, the War on Drugs is an abject failure, and thus a complete waste of money. It has served as a giant subsidy to organized crime, just as alcohol prohibition did in the 20s. It makes keeping cannabis and hard drugs out of the hands of youngsters more difficult, increases violent crime, and puts otherwise productive, tax-paying people behind bars. It's one of the reasons I'd rather be in Canada, even though the Harper government is trying to adopt US Drug War policies (they've already pushed through mandatory sentences for anyone growing 6+ cannabis plants).

**** the police.
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I agree. The War on Drugs is one of the most expensive and worthless wars that has ever been waged.
But then again..... we all know that's what the government likes. The C.I.A flies in the drugs that are illegal, and then puts them on the street to put people with no priors in prison.
The"elites" plan for over a century has been to destroy the middle class financially, recruit the wealthy into their club, and put all dissenters in jail.
This is way the war on drugs will never end, it's too perfect of a system for the owners of this country.


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Traslation: I got bored and so I tried some pot, got high, and spent hours trying to justify doing it all the time even though I am no longer 14.
 
Characteristically dismissive. How dare anyone have different values or opinions than you.

This wasn't written by some worthless welfare case. It's Carl ****ing Sagan. Did you even read it?
 
GVC said:
Characteristically dismissive. How dare anyone have different values or opinions than you.

This wasn't written by some worthless welfare case. It's Carl ****ing Sagan. Did you even read it?
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I read it. I liked it. I have always LOVED Carl Sagan.

He and I shared a lot of the same experiences it seems.
 
GVC said:
Characteristically dismissive. How dare anyone have different values or opinions than you.

This wasn't written by some worthless welfare case. It's Carl ****ing Sagan. Did you even read it?
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Characteristically defensive. It all boils down to exactly what I said. He got bored, got high, liked it, and felt the need to write a 300 page (look up hyperbole) essay on the benefits of weed to justify himself. Some people get talkative when high. He gets writative apparently.

Carl Sagan is not God, Ghandi, Steve Jobs, and Teddy the Wonder Lizard rolled into one. He is an astronomer. Yay. Adds no greater validity than any other person to the mairjuana debate. There are plenty of high-profile people in the pro-weed camps.

Funny thing is, I am pro-legalization. I just don't buy all the existential esoteric crap you try to convince yourself of. You like it and want to smoke it whenever you want without fear of legal repercussions. I support that position.

And yes I read it. I found it interesting. He likes weed. It makes him smarter and see colors and better dealing with social situations and able to appreciate art and music. Good for him. I do most of that without weed (minus the hallucinations).

Speaking of not being valuing anyone's opinion but your own, you epitomized that in your response. My response was my opinion. My opinion that his opinion is no greater than anyone elses and had no more substance or validity than anything else posted in this thread. You summarily dismissed it. If an opinion is not immediately recognizable as being hyperbollically pro-weed it is not worth considering. Hypocritical much?.
 
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