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Matthews Career Night and Interview

cowhide said:
I don''t think his contract was that bad. Yes the up front money was bad but the Jazz lost Matthews because they made the mistake of extending Okur when they didn't have to extend him. I was one of the few Jazz fans who wanted to keep Matthews regardless of the money because I thought the kid was going to get better. Wes has the "it" factor and you can tell that when he talks and plays. I understand it was a financial move but it was not a smart move. It may even look worse if Raja is not healthy.
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+1 rep.

We made that huge mistake of extending Okur for no reason. It has come back to bite us in the ***.

Would you rather have Memo or Wes, and Maynor? Oh, what could have been. No, what SHOULD have been.
 
Mathews is doing what he is doing with high volume attempts. His percentages are not great.

44% from the field, 28% from 3 (Yikes), and 78% from the FT line. All of these numbers are below where they were with the Jazz last year.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not forget that Portland gave him 9 Million Dollars in one day (ONE DAY?!) and will continue to pay him 5 mill during the year.

The Jazz could pay Raja's entire salary almost with what they gave him in one day. I for one am not worried about it AT ALL.
 
BOX said:
Everyone in the media, League and Fans thought the contract was absurd. No reason to start bashing the decision now. It is what it is.
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Yes, I still understand the decision. I just feel bad about it and hate friggin' Portland for it.
 
Also, I'm pretty sure if Matthews played the same beginning of the season here as he did in Portland, there would be a "trade Matthews!" thread or two about the site. He's coming along a bit, but his points are all based on high volume shooting.
 
twentytwo said:
Also, I'm pretty sure if Matthews played the same beginning of the season here as he did in Portland, there would be a "trade Matthews!" thread or two about the site.
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His first half dozen games with them, Matthews scored 13 points or better (high of 18) in 4 of 6 games. Nope, unlikely anybody would've wanted to trade somebody who put up those numbers coming off the bench for about 22 minutes per. Not to mention the hustle and defense he probably brought with him too.

And also the Jazz didn't and don't have a Brandon Roy equivalent that Matthews would have had to play behind.

Sure most of the board were fine with the FO not matching but the FO do this for a living and they sure dropped the ball on this one. Another mistake from the same guys that brought us the Mehmet Okur extension, among others.
 
MrBlue said:
Mathews is doing what he is doing with high volume attempts. His percentages are not great.

44% from the field, 28% from 3 (Yikes), and 78% from the FT line. All of these numbers are below where they were with the Jazz last year.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not forget that Portland gave him 9 Million Dollars in one day (ONE DAY?!) and will continue to pay him 5 mill during the year.

The Jazz could pay Raja's entire salary almost with what they gave him in one day. I for one am not worried about it AT ALL.
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well those are not rperesanative he strugled at the start of season. played with akward lineups. etc etc.

now that roy is out he has more stability. and it shows
 
DutchJazzer said:
well those are not rperesanative he strugled at the start of season. played with akward lineups. etc etc.

now that roy is out he has more stability. and it shows
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What? His percentages were not good against Denver the other night either. 8-19 or something like that. People on here are overrating him a lot.
 
In Matthews' two starts with Portland, he shot 11-19 for 30 points and 8-18 for 20 points. That's 51% shooting. Those include 5-10 and 3-8 from 3pt. That's 44% on 4 treys made a game. Portland also won both games.

It's one thing to debate whether or not it was right for the Jazz not to match but come on, Matthews has been doing well. Also, he's been doing better than all our guards not named Deron. Coming off last season's play, if Wes was starting now alongside Deron in the backcourt instead of our current scrubs, damn. The Jazz got it wrong. Again.
 
jimmyjazz said:
In Matthews' two starts with Portland, he shot 11-19 for 30 points and 8-18 for 20 points. That's 51% shooting. Those include 5-10 and 3-8 from 3pt. That's 44% on 4 treys made a game. Portland also won both games.

It's one thing to debate whether or not it was right for the Jazz not to match but come on, Matthews has been doing well. Also, he's been doing better than all our guards not named Deron. Coming off last season's play, if Wes was starting now alongside Deron in the backcourt instead of our current scrubs, damn. The Jazz got it wrong. Again.
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Again. You think that the Jazz should have paid this dude 9 Million dollars in a single day before he even played a game under this contract? We can almost pay Raja's entire salary for that much money. Not to mention that he still is going to get 5 Million during the course of the season. Come on. That's stupid for a player of that caliber.
 
MrBlue said:
Again. You think that the Jazz should have paid this dude 9 Million dollars in a single day before he even played a game under this contract? We can almost pay Raja's entire salary for that much money. Not to mention that he still is going to get 5 Million during the course of the season. Come on. That's stupid for a player of that caliber.
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That's front-loading. It's within the rules, it's done. Even the Jazz did it when they stole Boozer, remember?

Coming off his play last season and what he's done starting for Portland, it's possible Matthews could've at least brought 15 ppg and solid defense at SG. Mid-level money for that kind of production wouldn't be criminal.

The Jazz are always looking for that $2-3 million bargain wing who'll bring mediocre to average production. You really enjoy that?
 
the problem is not wheter jazz should mathc it or not.

but the jazz said let the market set the price. well the market set the price. so pay the price.

cheap *** ********
 
DutchJazzer said:
the problem is not wheter jazz should mathc it or not.

but the jazz said let the market set the price. well the market set the price. so pay the price.

cheap *** ********
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That's the real issue. The Jazz were not proactive in bringing him back.

No way the Jazz should have matched that offer.

Still: 6-16 tonight. That's not efficient.
 
MrBlue said:
That's the real issue. The Jazz were not proactive in bringing him back.

No way the Jazz should have matched that offer.

Still: 6-16 tonight. That's not efficient.
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to be fair his defense was spectacular. although refs should have called some more fouls on him
 
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