Game Thread May 23, 2021 07:30PM MT: Jazz vs. Grizzlies - Game 1

[JazzGal]

Problem is we have no LeBron, A.Davis or Kawhi level players on our team. I am not panicking and fully expect us to win this series but those statements about previous champs losing game 1 does not really make much sense to me.

It makes us feel better.

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[infection]

Here are my thoughts:

- I'm always nervous about a prolonged amount of time off. Rest is good, but so is rhythm. My ideal between a series is maybe 3 days. Perhaps 4. Enough time to recover and not be winded, but not enough time to get rusty.

- Memphis scared me this year (well, scared may not be the right word) because they beat us last year. Last year I was feeling more comfortable about beating them because they smoked us the year before, but this time we had Conley and they didn't. I was surprised we swept them this year. That said, there were some tough games and we didn't just roll through them.

- I'm less scared of the dangerousness of them vs. someone like Curry.

- Morant scored a lot of points when I looked at the box score, but he didn't seem like he was as big a factor as he was during the season where he would make impossible layups over Gobert.

- We can say we lost because of bad anomalies, but anomalies aren't necessarily just random distributions, they're a reflection of different issues that then give rise to the anomalies. I think the same concern we've had about this team and lacking a killer instinct or coasting was present here, as well. I hope this knock in the mouth is a wakeup call where we were caught sleeping and not thinking that the playoffs rolling around is some magic cure for our lapses that we go through in games. Hopefully they will take this more serious. Then again, you'd thinking blowing a 3-1 lead would cause one to take things more serious.

- We got hosed on the fouls. Conley with stupid foul trouble and Gobert with nonsense calls. Quin needs to burn those challenges more so to protect Rudy's fouls and be less concerned about points. How important is one possession at the end of the game vs. 5-6 minutes more of Rudy?

- We can't close out close games. This is a problem. You have to find ways to win. In one way, maybe it's good we lose so we don't reinforce this idea that you can play crappy and just pull it out at the end.

- I think we still win. Need to win the next two for sure, but next three would be ideal.

- Brooks and Anderson are the problems, as can be JV because it changes some dynamics there.

- I resigned myself to the fact that they'd lose probably around half-time, and for sure in the third.

 

[homeytennis]

Jazz aren't going to win many games shooting that percentage from three.

 

[hgb]

- We got hosed on the fouls. Conley with stupid foul trouble and Gobert with nonsense calls. Quin needs to burn those challenges more so to protect Rudy's fouls and be less concerned about points. How important is one possession at the end of the game vs. 5-6 minutes more of Rudy?

Not sure I agree with this. I can't remember any fouls on Rudy that would've been overturned by a challenge. The playoff whistle really lets a lot of stuff go, but if they look at the replay and see a small shove down low or minimal contact, they aren't going to overturn it even if they probably see they should've let it go.

 

[fishonjazz]

Jazz aren't going to win many games shooting that percentage from three.

Another way to look at it: jazz aren't going to shoot that percentage from 3 in many games.

In fact jazz only shot that poorly from three in 2 out of 73 games so far this season.

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[infection]

Not sure I agree with this. I can't remember any fouls on Rudy that would've been overturned by a challenge. The playoff whistle really lets a lot of stuff go, but if they look at the replay and see a small shove down low or minimal contact, they aren't going to overturn it even if they probably see they should've let it go.

I was watching live so I didn't see the replays, but his third foul looked phantom.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I was watching live so I didn't see the replays, but his third foul looked phantom.

The issue is the replay would not change any of them... there was contact all game... the issue is the refs decided to pick an choose when they were calling it and when they weren't. I was more upset that Quin wasn't more vociferous with his complaints. In a game that is physical and called on judgement you need to exert some energy to influence that judgement.

I don't disagree with the overall idea of we should really try and use our challenges to protect Rudy. He also has to not buy into the ******** that JV is out there trying to get him with. He has to be smarter and realize JV will try and draw fouls all game... can't lose focus and push him back... he may have to play with his hands tied early to ensure it isn't a problem.

 

[yamers]

We likely win this series still. Tomorrow is obviously huge. The amount of things that broke the Grizzlies way was pretty incredible. I think if we win game 1 its a 4-1 series win... as it stands I think we win in 6.

i wouldnt be so sure. we **** the mitts to lesser opponents.

 

[hgb]

I don't disagree with the overall idea of we should really try and use our challenges to protect Rudy. He also has to not buy into the ******** that JV is out there trying to get him with. He has to be smarter and realize JV will try and draw fouls all game... can't lose focus and push him back... he may have to play with his hands tied early to ensure it isn't a problem.

Rudy also has to be smarter on offensive boards. I think he got at least two fouls on rebounds, and at least one of them was a really blatant two-hands-in-the-back shove that was enormously easy for the Memphis player to sell, and which will be called every time. I love that he fights for those rebounds, but _never_ push people in the (lower) back.

 

[Hekate]

Rudy also has to be smarter on offensive boards. I think he got at least two fouls on rebounds, and at least one of them was a really blatant two-hands-in-the-back shove that was enormously easy for the Memphis player to sell, and which will be called every time. I love that he fights for those rebounds, but _never_ push people in the (lower) back.

He has to be smarter and needs to sell it better but he wasn't the only one pulling and pushing. Valanciunas got away with more. Some of those fouls wouldn't be called if refs were consistent or Valanciunas would foul out as well.