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Melo traded to OKC for Enes and McDermott

2 differences with GSW and OKC. Curry, KD, Klay have huge off ball value. Klay has also decided to be the selfless guy that doesn't care if he gets credit. Over their careers none of the thunder big 3 have shown that desire.

Good trade for OKC, but they don't scare me if I'm GSW.
 
When it comes time to re-sign Melo and George the idea of the three of them can be a powerful thing. I think this team works and they are the biggest threat to GSW imo.

I'd find some satisfaction in them knocking Durant off in the playoffs.
 
I really like this trade, but in a best case scenario doesn't even come close to touching GSW. Individually, I would take any of Curry, Green, KD, or Thompson over any of the Thunder's big three.
 
BTW, how does Presti make these moves? They gave up nothing of value and ended up with two superstars, arguably. Making the rest of the NBA look crappy. It's too bad for OKC that Clay Bennett is such a ****ing dumb sack of **** and pushed Harden out because he didn't want to amnesty Kendrick Perkins lol.
 
NUMBERICA said:
BTW, how does Presti make these moves? They gave up nothing of value and ended up with two superstars, arguably. Making the rest of the NBA look crappy. It's too bad for OKC that Clay Bennett is such a ****ing dumb sack of **** and pushed Harden out because he didn't want to amnesty Kendrick Perkins lol.
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Basically because they have no fear of losing it all. All their eggs are in the present basket of keeping Westbrook there. They could all leave in UFA next year if they wanted.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Basically because they have no fear of losing it all. All their eggs are in the present basket of keeping Westbrook there. They could all leave in UFA next year if they wanted.
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What? None of that has anything to do with that they traded basically nothing and ended up with two superstar-ish players.
 
NUMBERICA said:
What? None of that has anything to do with that they traded basically nothing and ended up with two superstar-ish players.
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How does that not have anything to do with it?

OKC has to put everything in the impress Russ this last year basket so he re-signs. They had good enough young players on long-term contracts to give up to get these guys where other teams didnt have that w/ the willingness to risk it. Since no one wants to trade anything of value, it lowers the price, where a team like OKC who had young pieces of long-term deals come in.
 
My guess is Melo will drop his iso play quite a bit. At 33 years old probably is ready for more perimeter life. If he can up his career 3PT from 34.6% to about 36-37% will work out pretty nicely.
 
Jazz4ever said:
My guess is Melo will drop his iso play quite a bit. At 33 years old probably is ready for more perimeter life. If he can up his career 3PT from 34.6% to about 36-37% will work out pretty nicely.
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Drop iso play? That's all the Thunder run. That's why I kind of like his fit because it's not like Billy Donovan is going to draw up anything outside of Melo's comfort zone and ask him to actually work. It will be, space if Russ or George has the ball then sometimes we will give it to you in the high post when we cant get anything in transition. And I think will George will kind of just roll w/ the punches cuz he knows he is going to LA anyway.
 
NUMBERICA said:
.BTW, how does Presti make these moves? They gave up nothing of value and ended up with two superstars, arguably. Making the rest of the NBA look crappy. It's too bad for OKC that Clay Bennett is such a ****ing dumb sack of **** and pushed Harden out because he didn't want to amnesty Kendrick Perkins lol.
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33 YO Melo is not a superstar. Please stop saying that.

Also, Melo had a no-trade clause and was trying to force his way to Houston. When it wasn't working out, he expanded his list of teams to include the Cavs and OKC. It's not like Presti was competing against the rest of the league in pulling this trade off. The Knicks were in a bad situation and ended up taking the lesser of evils just to get him out of NY.

Paul George is headed to the Lakers next year, and everyone knows it, so it crushed his trade value.

Let's revisit this OKC offseason next year and for the next decade following, as it may take them that long to rebuild after burning everything resembling an asset to go all in this year. It's a huge gamble that they may greatly regret.
 
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Cappy_Smurf said:
Melo had a no trade clause and Utah wasn't on his list, so there's that. I doubt there's anything DL could have done for Melo to consider Utah.



Anyway,come back next year when OKC is trying to rebuild out of a deep hole after trading away everything and anything that resembles an asset for guys who are going to bolt after one year.

If GS wasn't so stacked, then it may have been worth it for a ring, but this team went all in on one year which will likely send them into a long, drawn out rebuild. In the end, I think OKC will greatly regret not cleaning Boston out of all their picks to start an amazing rebuild instead of the nightmare they're likely to face otherwise.
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I didn't say he should go after Melo. I said I wish he was more aggressive.

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nateboz said:
I didn't say he should go after Melo. I said I wish he was more aggressive.

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What's your evidence for his lack of aggression, exactly? And why are you making that accusation in this context?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Drop iso play? That's all the Thunder run. That's why I kind of like his fit because it's not like Billy Donovan is going to draw up anything outside of Melo's comfort zone and ask him to actually work. It will be, space if Russ or George has the ball then sometimes we will give it to you in the high post when we cant get anything in transition. And I think will George will kind of just roll w/ the punches cuz he knows he is going to LA anyway.
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All 3 of them are use to being "the man" so at least one of them is going to have to change their game quite a bit. Players naturally gravitate to being jump shooters as they age. On a per minute basis Melo shot more 3s last year and had less shots within 3 feet than anytime in his career. He also averaged the least amount of FTs of his career last year so his transition as a support player may be well under way.
 
I remember when Durant left us, many Jazzfan on here called me out.

How does it feel for that to bite you all in your collective asses now?

Welcome to obscurity Jazz. Over here we'll still be competing for a title.

LOL.
 
Ignacio said:
I remember when Durant left us, many Jazzfan on here called me out.

How does it feel for that to bite you all in your collective asses now?

Welcome to obscurity Jazz. Over here we'll still be competing for a title.

LOL.
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lol ok Here we still have a foundational superstar and a lot of young talent to grow and develop. When the three of them leave next year you can get back to us about what the true definition of obscurity really is.
 
More Presti worship: if this doesn't work and everyone bolts, the Thunder have infinite cap space and no one to score, so they'd be perfectly situated for a total rebuild.
 
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