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Memo to players complaining about minutes: Shut Your Mouth!

Archie Moses said:
I'm talking about any player who tells his coach not to play him so many minutes as discussed in this thread. I heard Deron was one of them.
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It seems like you're the one modifying your argument here, but whatever.

It's in no one's best interest long-term for the team's best player to play 40+ MPG. Whether that's Durant saying it (and he did), Lebron, or Deron, they're just speaking the truth. It's bad for the team and bad for the player to play that much, I can't believe anyone would believe otherwise. I'm not surprised Jim Rome has the stance that he does, he's a sports radio shock jock. I enjoy his show, but not for his awesome insight, I enjoy it to get laughs and some interviews.
 
Actually Deron has mentioned to the press, maybe after last season, that he thought his minutes were too high. When we factor in that he guides the entire ball club, often taking on much of the scoring burden as the Jazz are not a good jump shooting team, especially w/o Okur, I have to agree with him. As good a PG as he is, he is still not a superstar athlete like Jordan or even Lebron or Dwade. Quite simply, he wears down over a long season of too many minutes when the playoffs start.
No way he'd be in Sloan's face about it, though...
 
40 minutes of game time with regular breaks doesn't seem that much to me.

Most athletes' workouts are tougher than that....or should be.
 
Archie Moses said:
There's a huge difference in resting an old player and resting a player who's in his prime. The point is, if a coach wants you play the minutes, you play the minutes and you don't call him out.
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You're right. That was an older Spurs team. That doesn't mean every team does not need to do this. Managing health is just one faction of a coach's job. As easy as it looks, going all out every play during a 48 minute game is hard work. The inside guys bang especially hard day-in day-out. Bodies take a toll.

As has been said already, these players may not have been calling any coach out. Given it has become a politically correct interview process, I'd guess after 7-8 games these players are simply saying what is on everyone's mind. They're simply an extension of coach's sentiments.

Everything has to be a controversy these days.
 
What's the over/under in days before Pat Riley takes over as head coach of The Heat?

I'm going with 45 days.
 
NUMBERICA said:
It appears just about everyone in this thread is ****ing retarded. I'm not even sure where to start with the idiocy on this.
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Seriously though, who the hell does Deron think he is? If I were getting paid millions of dollars to play basketball, I would play 80 minutes a game, 8 days a week, and then mow the lawn every day when I got home.

I think it's fair to say that most of us know more than our star player when it comes to what's in Utah's best interest. Let's face it, Deron is a sissy and he should be traded.
 
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I think it's funny how worked up people get over innocent comments that players make. Every comment I've read about players talking about their minutes has been something to the effect of "Yeah, it's pretty tiring playing so many minutes, but oh well". Yeah, something really worth ******** your pants over there. Somebody mentioning that things haven't been perfectly ideal, let's crucify them now before they say something even more damning, like they'd rather have 70 degree, sunny weather every day.
 
Archie has been on a non-stop Deron-slanderin binge lately. I think he likes Deron, but does it for he attention, dunno.

Accordin to Numba, there, Deron, when asked about playin too many minutes merely said:

“Nah. But it would have been cool to get a couple minutes (rest). My shots looked good. But we’ve got to do a better job of, leading up to the fourth quarter, having a better game. A couple minutes would have been cool. But I’m not going to blame it on that.”

Archie turns this into a complaint against Sloan, when he clearly blames himself. Go figure, eh?
 
Hopper said:
Archie has been on a non-stop Deron-slanderin binge lately. I think he likes Deron, but does it for he attention, dunno.

Accordin to Numba, there, Deron, when asked about playin too many minutes merely said:

“Nah. But it would have been cool to get a couple minutes (rest). My shots looked good. But we’ve got to do a better job of, leading up to the fourth quarter, having a better game. A couple minutes would have been cool. But I’m not going to blame it on that.”

Archie turns this into a complaint against Sloan, when he clearly blames himself. Go figure, eh?
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I think someone is catching on to me. Controversy is fuel to my fire. lol




BTW, I love Deron.
 
TheSilencer1313 said:
Your thread title makes it sound like Mehmet Okur is telling players to "shut up" about their minutes LOL!!
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Exactly what I thought... haha

Back to the topic, I think the expectation after Earl Watson was signed was that Deron will be able to rest more during the game without any drop off. Not sure what happened in practices that Watson and Price don't get to play more and let Deron rest more. Maybe it is a message from Deron to Sloan that those guys need time to play. Maybe it's a message to Watson and Price that they need to step up (which during this road trip, both guys contributed, just in different games).. I have no problem about that. It will definitely hurt the team if they need Deron to play 40+ minutes every night.

I just found that weird that LeBron said that after a LOSS... in Deron's case, he is just saying that it's no good if the team needs him to play that much in order to win all these basketball games. In LeBron's case, if I were him, I would have said the coach should play him MORE minutes so that we can win the game. So the team loses, and he wants to play less to help the team?? Doesn't make any sense to me.
 
unluckyseventeen said:
I think it's funny how worked up people get over innocent comments that players make. Every comment I've read about players talking about their minutes has been something to the effect of "Yeah, it's pretty tiring playing so many minutes, but oh well". Yeah, something really worth ******** your pants over there. Somebody mentioning that things haven't been perfectly ideal, let's crucify them now before they say something even more damning, like they'd rather have 70 degree, sunny weather every day.
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You've obviously never played organized sports before. LeBron's comments are pretty much the beginning of cancer amongst players and their coach. He's questioning Eric and publicly calling him out. This type of stuff destroys teams whether the media reports it or not. Look at the Vikings this year.
 
Hopper said:
Archie has been on a non-stop Deron-slanderin binge lately. I think he likes Deron, but does it for he attention, dunno.

Accordin to Numba, there, Deron, when asked about playin too many minutes merely said:

“Nah. But it would have been cool to get a couple minutes (rest). My shots looked good. But we’ve got to do a better job of, leading up to the fourth quarter, having a better game. A couple minutes would have been cool. But I’m not going to blame it on that.”

Archie turns this into a complaint against Sloan, when he clearly blames himself. Go figure, eh?
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That's actually a quote from the NBA's new golden boy, Kevin Durant. There's nothing official that Deron has said that can be quoted so far as I know.
 
LeBron is being a bitch, no doubt. You don't blame the coach after you lose a game. Bad form.
 
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