Mike Conley Contingency Plan

[Handlogten's Heros]

Fo sho. I could get seriously geeked after that trade.

I like Smart... I think he’s a little overrated by some but he gives us a lot of what we lack. We’d still need some passing and playmaking if Mike walked but a Smart for JC swap with Mike on board would be pretty great.

 

[infection]

I like Smart... I think he’s a little overrated by some but he gives us a lot of what we lack. We’d still need some passing and playmaking if Mike walked but a Smart for JC swap with Mike on board would be pretty great.

The hope here would to see if Ainge had Stevens in an abusive relationship and if he can coax him into feeling bad about about what he did to our franchise with Hayward and help him realize the only way to atone for this is a Favors/Smart swap. That and maybe having some dirt on Stevens.

“It’d be a shame if people were to find out about that one time you did that one thing.”

 

[infection]

This picture was just randomly posted in a Facebook group I’m in (a group that has nothing to do with Cleveland):



It’s a sign. We’re getting Nance.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The hope here would to see if Ainge had Stevens in an abusive relationship and if he can coax him into feeling bad about about what he did to our franchise with Hayward and help him realize the only way to atone for this is a Favors/Smart swap. That and maybe having some dirt on Stevens.

“It’d be a shame if people were to find out about that one time you did that one thing.”

Stevens gasps “you wouldn’t?!?!?”

Ainge (creepily while stroking his neck fat) “wouldn’t I?”

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

I think that Kyle Lowry for the MLE makes some sense IG you can do a S&T with Mike Conley for a tremendous two way wing.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think that Kyle Lowry for the MLE makes some sense IG you can do a S&T with Mike Conley for a tremendous two way wing.

Ha. Kyle gonna get more than Mike.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Ha. Kyle gonna get more than Mike.

Kyle Lowry is 2 years OLDER than Mike Conley. He is also 1 year separated from impactful play. He took a reduced role with the raptors this season and the Raptors didn't even make the playoffs.

Mike conley was an all star this year, plays both sides of the court, and Chris Paul's importance for the Suns may get them both more value on the open market than other years.

I think Kyle makes less than Mike in 2022 due to age and impact on their given teams in 2021.

 

[Ujfanatic]

I keep saying this: we are not going to be hard-capped by trading Conley. The hard cap only applies to the team that receives a sign and trade player, not the one who trades him away. As long as the player we receive back is not also a sign and trade, we can go over the apron.

The biggest challenge is finding a trade partner Conley would like that could stay under the apron, because that team would become hard capped by receiving Conley. I think that makes the Lakers unlikely to take a sign and trade because they have a bunch of roster spots to fill. Boston could work. So could Philadelphia and Indiana.

If Conley were to look at a team with cap space (eg Heat, Knicks, Bulls, Mavs) we could take back less/no salary and get a trade exception.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I keep saying this: we are not going to be hard-capped by trading Conley. The hard cap only applies to the team that receives a sign and trade player, not the one who trades him away. As long as the player we receive back is not also a sign and trade, we can go over the apron.

The biggest challenge is finding a trade partner Conley would like that could stay under the apron, because that team would become hard capped by receiving Conley. I think that makes the Lakers unlikely to take a sign and trade because they have a bunch of roster spots to fill. Boston could work. So could Philadelphia and Indiana.

If Conley were to look at a team with cap space (eg Heat, Knicks, Bulls, Mavs) we could take back less/no salary and get a trade exception.

The more research I do on this the more I actually think this is true. In this case it absolutely would be the best thing to do if Conley didn’t want to stay here.

 

[vegas]

Conley is selling his labor. Depending on how he values it, at this stage of his career, his options will multiply. Or not.

I know you know this, I’m just saying that the real-world whittles down options pretty fast.

Just checking. It was weird to think he would want to go Pelicans for instance. I get they have talent, but they were far below .500. I guess if they wanted to offer way more money anything is possible. All this S&T seems ultra low probability to me.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Ha. Kyle gonna get more than Mike.

I think they can probably both command the same contract. It's just about who wants the money vs who wants the fit.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also, hopefully the DL firing is in someway related to Conley. Maybe they didnt like each other or something and him getting fired makes Conley more likely to stay.

 

[NAOS]

Also, hopefully the DL firing is in someway related to Conley. Maybe they didnt like each other or something and him getting fired makes Conley more likely to stay.

I guess this is fair to speculate about.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Even if you are a Conley hater the best version of this team means you re-sign him. Either to keep him or move him in season. The S&T offers will be not great compared to what might be out there mid season.

You really challenging Lopo with this one.

 

[LoPo]

You really challenging Lopo with this one.

I've said this exact same thing already. We have to re-sign or S&T Conley. And even if we re-sign him, he could just be a trade piece down the road.

 

[homeytennis]

If he leaves we are dealing with another team's scraps. What about someone like Jeff Teague? I would mention Caruso but his urine is dirty at the moment.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Am I the only person who thinks Lonzo isn't very good? The Jazz essentially need one player, just one really, and that's a long, athletic wing so that Royce O'Neale either moves to the bench or to the 2 next to Mitchell.

 

[Ineptimusprime]

Am I the only person who thinks Lonzo isn't very good? The Jazz essentially need one player, just one really, and that's a long, athletic wing so that Royce O'Neale either moves to the bench or to the 2 next to Mitchell.

The Jazz don’t need just one long, athletic dude. They need an upgrade in length and athleticism generally across the board. We need at LEAST one starter level long, athletic wing defender and two bench rotation level wing defenders, IMO.

This is why we need to sacrifice Bogey/Ingles/Clarkson. We need someone good enough to steal minutes, and won’t be able to get that person without opening up the minutes.

 

[LoPo]

Am I the only person who thinks Lonzo isn't very good? The Jazz essentially need one player, just one really, and that's a long, athletic wing so that Royce O'Neale either moves to the bench or to the 2 next to Mitchell.

I think Lonzo is good. Not great, but good. He can play with and without the ball which makes him an ideal fit next Don. He's also tall and talented enough to run the PnR with Rudy.

I would rather have Jrue or Brogdon, but Lonzo is being floated as a possibility since New Orleans had him out there available for trades at the deadline.

I don't think this is very possible though. Highly unlikely, but he would be a good fit. Good player, great fit, highly unlikely.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

The Jazz don’t need just one long, athletic dude. They need an upgrade in length and athleticism generally across the board. We need at LEAST one starter level long, athletic wing defender and two bench rotation level wing defenders, IMO.

This is why we need to sacrifice Bogey/Ingles/Clarkson. We need someone good enough to steal minutes, and won’t be able to get that person without opening up the minutes.

Mitchell/Royce/Bogey/BigWing/Gobert is fine for size, length and defense. That big wing needs to be a two-way player who can contribute 15/8. Then Clarkson, Ingles and Favors or Dok come off the bench.

That's the first move I would make. If you want a versatile, long-term guard next to Mitchell, then that's the second move.

Jazz shouldn't over-react.