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Sean said:
lmao it's straight up trash referring to Mitchell has Mr. Diva. Some of you fans are just garbage people.

Frankly, Utah doesn't deserve Mitchell. If he smart, he'd probably bail this toxic franchise with their ****** fans before he spends his top years trying to win at a franchise that has been totally *** in the playoffs for most its history.

The trainers did Mitchell dirty. They were the ones who cleared him to play but probably got miffed that he trusted his own trainers more than them and decided to hold him out based entirely on spite. Mitchell called them out for their ******** and they had to quickly change their tone and put it out there he would play Wednesday despite the whole story about him being pulled so late was an apparent result of not liking what they saw (utter ******** because why say he's going to play emphatically knowing there's still two shoot arounds where this supposed issue could resurface again, forcing another about-face and yank him again).

But go on and hate arguably our franchise player.

God, some of you are ****ing morons.
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Literally one person has been calling Mitchell a diva. Not sure what you are ranting about but you certainly did a good job of revealing where your loyalties lie. Not sure why you are on a Jazz fan forum tbh.
 
Jazzbot said:
Eh, I don’t think Donovan’s nearly as popular as he was like a year and a half ago among the fanbase. I think he was the most popular player among the fanbase prior to the Covid issue we had ever seen, or at least top 3, but since last March I think his popularity has lessened quite a bit, and situations like this don’t help it any. The problem is, I think you had some fans not liking it because he was sitting out so long and this fanbase is used to Stockton Malone spoiling them, and now you have some fans feeling like he created more drama here than necessary, which is probably fair to an extent honestly. He has made things far more public and worse than they needed to be on more than one occasion now. Oneye is over the top, but I don’t think Donovan handles himself all that well in difficult situations if you want my honest opinion. I also don’t love that he’s siding with his personal staff and is clearly not in line with the teams staff. That’s never a good thing. It has potential to become a Kawhi situation.
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If he's less popular it's because people are jumping to conclusions over one cryptic twit. The fault in that lies with the FO for not getting out ahead of the **** storm and providing some context.
 
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LogGrad98 said:
Literally one person has been calling Mitchell a diva. Not sure what you are ranting about but you certainly did a good job of revealing where your loyalties lie. Not sure why you are on a Jazz fan forum tbh.
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It's literally not just one fan. He's been referred to as a diva by two fans in this thread alone: oneye and Saint Cy.

Yeah, it's only two (on this forum) but the **** Mitchell gets from this fan base, either because of stuff like this or speaking his mind on issues that are important to him, continues to be ridiculously high. And yeah, I'll bitch about here and wherever I see it.
 
Sean said:
It's literally not just one fan. He's been referred to as a diva by two fans in this thread alone: oneye and Saint Cy.

Yeah, it's only two (on this forum) but the **** Mitchell gets from this fan base, either because of stuff like this or speaking his mind on issues that are important to him, continues to be ridiculously high. And yeah, I'll bitch about here and wherever I see it.
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You are judging the entire fan base on 2 of the worst posters on a fan forum. Pretty clear who the non-fan is here.
 
LogGrad98 said:
You are judging the entire fan base on 2 of the worst posters on a fan forum. Pretty clear who the non-fan is here.
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No. I'm judging the fan base off what I see all over the goddamn internet every time Mitchell says or does something. It's not that difficult to understand. This is all an extension of it. And if you don't like my criticism of those fans, you can either ignore me or deal with it, broski.
 
Sean said:
No. I'm judging the fan base off what I see all over the goddamn internet every time Mitchell says or does something. It's not that difficult to understand. This is all an extension of it. And if you don't like my criticism of those fans, you can either ignore me or deal with it, broski.
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lol ok. Don't get your panties in a twist. You seem very secure in your fandom. Hell you even see **** no one else sees. Amazing!
 
Mitchell is a diva. It's not ridiculous to say (for those reasons, I support him speaking out on social/political issues). The way he treated Gobert and completely outed him to the media was disgusting. It is what it is.

I dont take it to the oneye level.
 
Sean said:
No. I'm judging the fan base off what I see all over the goddamn internet every time Mitchell says or does something. It's not that difficult to understand. This is all an extension of it. And if you don't like my criticism of those fans, you can either ignore me or deal with it, broski.
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Weird, cause I support his political issues, he's just a child and diva when it comes to dealing with difficult situations and it's time to grow the **** up and stop creating unnecessary drama and acting like a spoiled little bitch. Every situation he's not happy he throws a ****ing bitch fit. He threw the other best player on his team under the bus the second he got a chance and let it fester for 4 months. He threw a fit over social media comments and changed his profile pictures lol. He is now throwing the medical staff under the bus who have taken care of him his whole career to this point, and the organization who you know has given him a solid enough foundation to make the playoffs EVERY YEAR OF HIS CAREER. He is a child in difficult situations and gets all sorts of emotional and creates long lasting issues. Every season this **** is going to happen when Mr. Diva doesn't get his way on something.

PS the Jazz DID NOT handle this well. I'm not exactly sure what Dennis is supposed to say, we know what happened at this point for the most part. Dennis also didn't make the decision, do you want an interview with Mike Eliot? If he wanted to move on he could have just let it go, cleared the air behind the scenes, and moved forward to game 2 like he claims he wants. Instead he created a media **** storm that will now last into the offseason and hang over the relationship for good.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Unreadable trash website. Please post a copy-paste of relevant info. Bombarded with full-page and half-page video ads and banner ads, can barely see 1/4 of the page at a time.

It might be readable on a PC, don't know, but it's definitely not optimized for mobile.
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I'll help you out here...

The headline of the article says this: "RUMOR: Dwyane Wade's role in cleaning up Donovan Mitchell mess"

A more accurate headline of the article should say this: "SPECULATION: Dwyane Wade's role in cleaning up Donovan Mitchell mess?"
 
I see no one here has had to deal with many 24-year-olds in their lives, or they are in denial about themselves at 24. Very very few people are any kind of mature by their mid-twenties. Hell I was deep in my college career, and had a wife and 2 kids at 24 but I can fully admit I was still in many ways a child. Maturity at that age is really the exception, not the rule. They still need to be called on it and held accountable, but it is anything but out of the ordinary.

Hell as a manager I've dealt with thousands of different people of different ages over my 20 year career and I find people of all ages still act like children in many situations.

Hell, we just had a 70-year-old child as president for 4 years.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I see no one here has had to deal with many 24-year-olds in their lives, or they are in denial about themselves at 24. Very very few people are any kind of mature by their mid-twenties. Hell I was deep in my college career, and had a wife and 2 kids at 24 but I can fully admit I was still in many ways a child. Maturity at that age is really the exception, not the rule. They still need to be called on it and held accountable, but it is anything but out of the ordinary.

Hell as a manager I've dealt with thousands of different people of different ages over my 20 year career and I find people of all ages still act like children in many situations.
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I’m 24 currently and have the palate of an 8-year old so there’s that.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I see no one here has had to deal with many 24-year-olds in their lives, or they are in denial about themselves at 24. Very very few people are any kind of mature by their mid-twenties. Hell I was deep in my college career, and had a wife and 2 kids at 24 but I can fully admit I was still in many ways a child. Maturity at that age is really the exception, not the rule. They still need to be called on it and held accountable, but it is anything but out of the ordinary.

Hell as a manager I've dealt with thousands of different people of different ages over my 20 year career and I find people of all ages still act like children in many situations.

Hell, we just had a 70-year-old child as president for 4 years.
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He has people around him. This is Donovan AND his team doing this garbage. It’s pretty clear where Donovan stands, and it ain’t with the Utah Jazz on anything.
 
I'm just here wondering how someone stayed 70 years old for 4 years, but also agree with all your points.

The human mind doesn't even finish development until age 25 I do find it interesting how much criticism Mitchell receives from the same fans that excused a child as president and infact enabled him and encouraged his childish behavior.

I do not expect Mitchell to stay with the Jazz because of the crazy fans. I see the same crap in every jazz comment section and I know Mitchell sees it to.

It's too bad, because Mitchell is honestly a really good dude. Maybe a bit overbearing in his leadership role, but overall a good honest player and one of the best people to put on a jazz uniform.

Even if he handles some situations with immaturity.

I'm a 39 year old man... I still handle some issues with immaturity. Probably always will...

It's part of the human condition.

I also work jazz games for tv production and do get to see a fair amount of behind the scenes interaction. The gobert/Mitchell situation was completely overblown by fans and the media.

I feel like this situation is also getting overblown.

I have a hard time faulting a player for wanting to play even if the medical staff disagreed. Can't imagine I'd be happy either in that situation if I want to play, but... Leave it to fans and the media to blow it out of proportion.

Just realize, most national media would love nothing more than to see Mitchell anywhere else except Utah.
 
TheJedi said:
I'm just here wondering how someone stayed 70 years old for 4 years, but also agree with all your points.

The human mind doesn't even finish development until age 25 I do find it interesting how much criticism Mitchell receives from the same fans that excused a child as president and infact enabled him and encouraged his childish behavior.

I do not expect Mitchell to stay with the Jazz because of the crazy fans. I see the same crap in every jazz comment section and I know Mitchell sees it to.

It's too bad, because Mitchell is honestly a really good dude. Maybe a bit overbearing in his leadership role, but overall a good honest player and one of the best people to put on a jazz uniform.

Even if he handles some situations with immaturity.

I'm a 39 year old man... I still handle some issues with immaturity. Probably always will...

It's part of the human condition.

I also work jazz games for tv production and do get to see a fair amount of behind the scenes interaction. The gobert/Mitchell situation was completely overblown by fans and the media.

I feel like this situation is also getting overblown.

I have a hard time faulting a player for wanting to play even if the medical staff disagreed. Can't imagine I'd be happy either in that situation if I want to play, but... Leave it to fans and the media to blow it out of proportion.

Just realize, most national media would love nothing more than to see Mitchell anywhere else except Utah.
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Do you assume there are teams he can go to where every fan of that team will embrace everything he does?
 
gomretat said:
Do you assume there are teams he can go to where every fan of that team will embrace everything he does?
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Lakers fans are experts are glossing over the rough parts and fully justifying everything they do. Just ask one about Kobe's rape case. I brought that up once at work, not even accusing just in passing as part of a larger conversation and the place exploded. See, Kobe was a saint who never did anything wrong. How could the best basketball player ever do anything wrong? We are all just haters.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Lakers fans are experts are glossing over the rough parts and fully justifying everything they do. Just ask one about Kobe's rape case. I brought that up once at work, not even accusing just in passing as part of a larger conversation and the place exploded. See, Kobe was a saint who never did anything wrong. How could the best basketball player ever do anything wrong? We are all just haters.
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Eh... reading the transcript of the interview with Kobe when the detectives went to his hotel room the night he allegedly raped the girl, I would be surprised if it wasn't consensual. Kobe's answers gave me the impression he was shocked and shaken up over the accusation. He was quick to offer super specific details, and was openly wondering why the girl would lie about it.

Not that that constitues solid proof, obviously, but I don't blame anybody for believing he's innocent.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Lakers fans are experts are glossing over the rough parts and fully justifying everything they do. Just ask one about Kobe's rape case. I brought that up once at work, not even accusing just in passing as part of a larger conversation and the place exploded. See, Kobe was a saint who never did anything wrong. How could the best basketball player ever do anything wrong? We are all just haters.
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He was married at the time too. Great dude.
 
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