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Mitchell is a Better PG Prospect than Exum

bigmike said:
I would agree, I don't think either Exum or Mitchell starts next season. Which is fine by me. Rubio has always floated around 30mpg for his career, and I imagine Rodney will be about the same. Plus, both guys seem to miss 10-15 games a season with minor injuries.

If Rodney gets 12-18 minutes of his time at the 3, I see no reason why Mitchell and Exum couldn't both get 24-28 minutes a night next year:

PG - Rubio (30), Exum (18)
SG - Rodney (16), Mitchell (24), Exum (8)
SF - Ingles (30), Hood (14), Johnson/FA (4)
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I haven't been high on Burks for a few years, but he could really benefit playing with these two as well(if healthy). I hope Quin can add a dimension to the offense that allows the second unit to run the court and change pace.
 
Bodhi said:
Unrelated but how do I find the post where I said he has the chance to be the best player from this draft so I can put it in my signature?
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And I said he was Avery Lillard, Avery Bradley on D and Damian Lillard on O. Before the summer league started.

Shocking that we agree, again.

Irrational exuberance.
 
Exum will play alot of basketball this year at PG and SG but he will make his impact and name as a PG,whether it's for the Jazz or another team.He knows what he's best at and where he'll make his money whether Jazz fanz like it or not.
He already knows he can get to the basket at will and it won't make sense to try to make him a different type player than what he's best at.
He's playing for a contract and I'm not sure it's with Utah in mind.
 
I think Dante is here long-term. He's been quoted as saying he likes it here and wants to stay, he just wants to earn a starting job or serious playing time.

He's also a RFA. So barring anything absurd (e.g., a max offer after a terrible season) the Jazz will match.
 
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Mitchell and Exum showed signs of playing well together in Salt Lake. I think either can be played on the ball or off the ball and either can initiate plays. Though he has skills to play the PG, Mitchell might be more effective playing off the ball where he doesn't have to worry about surveying the whole offense most the time. He can just look to attack. A lot of Mitchell's more impressive plays yesterday were when he was focused on scoring (though part of that was probably due to his teammates not being able to do much offensively).

Exum and Mitchell are our most athletic players. Both can get by their defender and ball-hawk on defense. It's going to be tempting to play them together.
 
Dr. Jones said:
Terrible takes in this thread.
That's what makes fans though... so yeah
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It gets worse. Hard to tell where to start... Giving up on Rubio before he ever plays a game or the fact that Exum has shown nothing from the get go and still has a ton of development necessary before ever considering him anything close to a starter.


Ron Mexico said:
When Exum plays with a good Big he plays well. When he runs the pick and roll with Gobert things go well for him. When he ran the pick and roll with Diaw it was awful. Maybe Exum needs chemistry with Favors if he ends up getting minutes with him off the bench. Running more plays for both those players would be good for both of them.

I also think Exum is more advantageous at playing against PGs. He can get by a lot of them with his first step and they are not long enough to recover like SGs can.

Mitchell looks and acts like a SG to me. He can drive and kick but that is just as much a SG thing as a PG thing. Plus I think Exum is better suited to guard PGs and Mitchell SGs. But both are fairly interchangeable on both offense and defense, which will be really nice for Snyder to play with.
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There's a whole lot more that goes into this. Exum is only good with excellent spacing surrounding Lobert. Diaw isn't a spacer and he's not an excellent rim runner like Lobert, the best in the league (suck it DeAndre).

The Jazz ran a "weak" motion play last season that all three point guards excelled at, especially Mack. A shooter in both corners, Gobert high pnr spot or near free throw line, the other wing on the side ready to either receive the ball to enter motion or set a pin down screen for a wide open three. Meanwhile, Gobert can screen roll and nobody can collapse truly with the pin down creating a three, the screener setting up in the corner, and the opposite corner waiting for a pass. The guards dived to the rim hard when the defense gave them the opportunity.

Most of Exum's strong points were a benefit of this play. The only help is the corner defenders. One has to switch on the pin down and the opposite side has to hedge defend, which is pretty ineffective.

Exum, Mack and Hill all had a fast enough first step to blow by defenders in this situation.
 
Mitchell isnt an ideal pg, neither püre sg. He is a combo beast. If you try to force him to play in a certain box, he will not be efficient. We just should unleash the beast.
 
To me, Mitchell reminds me of the offspring of DRose and DWade. He can dominate the ball and play off it just fine. I personally like Exum at PG. I was down on him, but he's clearly showing improvement and his confidence is growing.
 
I am in the camp that DM has more potential both as PG and overall than Dante but summer league can be real deceiving. And I certainly don't think what they did in 3 summer league games is any indication whatsoever that they will play well together in the real league.
 
gomretat said:
I am in the camp that DM has more potential both as PG and overall than Dante but summer league can be real deceiving. And I certainly don't think what they did in 3 summer league games is any indication whatsoever that they will play well together in the real league.
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I think that the chemistry helps. Certainly can't hurt to have a bench full of hardworking guys that play defense and rebound.
 
I don't like when threads clearly pit one player against another. They are both Jazzmen
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But it sells here with certain guys.
I think Exum has inherited all the Hayward doubters and haters from the past years already.

We've heard Exum refer to himself as a PG and stated thats the position he wants to play.I haven't seen Mitchell refer to himself as a PG yet or say he was ,yet a thread is made here saying Mitchell is a better PG already ...great Jazz fan
 
Mitchell seems to be an ideal combo guard. His skill set and length are excellent and give the Jazz a lot of flexibility with how they use him. Dante too. . . but I think Exum gets more burn as a PG. The Jazz should want him to succeed there, so hopefully they'll give him every chance to do just that.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Better handle, better drive and kick game, and more dangerous out of the PNR.
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Locke said 6'3 shooting guards are not dominant and that to be dominant Mitchell will have to be a PG. That said, if both blossom let's make Exum the SG and Mitchell the PG and have them split playmaking duties.
 
Donovan Mitchell certainly isnt the most talented guy in this draft. Tatum, Fultz, Lonzo and some others ahead of him. But he certainly showed some intangibles to prove he will be something in this league. His decision making is a question. He has definitely some areas to improve; finishing balance, shooting consistency, body/ball control overall. But something is certain that this guy gave us hope in the most hopeless situation an NBA team could be "losing its franchise player". So we gotta support him but not get carried away with the hype. Just too early to decide he is a sure thing or stud. There is an italian saying; "Chi va piano va sano, chi va sano va lontano" WHO goes slowly, goes strong and WHO goes strong goes far. That should be the motto with DM. Slow but strong...
 
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