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Elizah Huge said:
That would be super underwhelming if we drafted Hendricks at 9. Passing on George here would be a mistake.
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Hendricks at 9 is a great pick… I would have gone George or Bufkin with that second pick but I understand drafting wing talent.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I worded it poorly… going Cissoko after getting Hendricks already is underwhelming.
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Understandable, but I’m not big on any of the guards that were still left on the board. If I’m going to reach for a guy, I’m going to reach for the one I like the most. There were three guys I debated between, and none of them were prototypical picks for the Jazz at that spot.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I'm not a huge Keyonte fan, but he definitely seems to be underrated on this board.
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Yeah… I wanted to take Bilal to unite the 92s in Houston… and don’t think Keyonte is like an amazing fit with green… but I’m not even sure Green is that good…

Give the Rockets Keyonte George. He won’t fall this far on draft night though.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Their lineup is SGA/Giddey/JDub/Chet/??. They're playing the other Jaylen Williams as a smaller 5. They have Tre Mann, Isaiah Joe, Lou Dort, Ousmane Dieng coming off their bench already. They want to play Chet at the 4. Dick or Hawkins would be good picks for them, but they'd be treated as bench scorers when size in the middle is a glaring need for them.

It wouldn't hurt them to make a consolidation trade.
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So Jaylen with a "Y" or with an "L"?
 
fishonjazz said:
Go ahead and answer the questions one by one based on your own thoughts.

1. Do you think we will sit healthy starters next season like we did this season?
2. Do you think our young players get better or worse next season?
3. Do you think Hardy becomes a better coach next year or a worse coach?
4. Do you think we trade 4 rotational players for garbage next season?
5. Do you think we add a total of zero players to our team in the off season?
6. After answering those questions, do you think our depth is better or worse than damian jones, udoka azubuke, micah potter, vernon carey, jonny juzang, luka samanic, and juan tascano anderson?
7. After answering those 6 questions do you think we are worse next season than we were this season?

I look forward to your answers.
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Ima take a stab at this...


1. Do you think we will sit healthy starters next season like we did this season? - It depends
2. Do you think our young players get better or worse next season? - It depends
3. Do you think Hardy becomes a better coach next year or a worse coach? - It depends
4. Do you think we trade 4 rotational players for garbage next season? - It depends
5. Do you think we add a total of zero players to our team in the off season? - It depends
6. After answering those questions, do you think our depth is better or worse than damian jones, udoka azubuke, micah potter, vernon carey, jonny juzang, luka samanic, and juan tascano anderson? - We need depends?
7. After answering those 6 questions do you think we are worse next season than we were this season? - definitely wearing depends!


How'd I do?
 
Bawse Dawg said:
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Lol Fish, you're one of the best people on this site, but that's not how it works. You literally quoted my post with all of the 'points' you are looking for, and your post was asking several questions, many of which are addressed by said 'points' in the quoted post. Obviously I'm not going to go above and beyond to have this conversation if you don't care to do the bare minimum. The points are there if you want to see them for your own curiosity. You have no obligation whatsoever to care about or respond to them.

We can just agree that we both hope the Jazz are a good team next year.
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Lol im asking you to do the same thing you are asking me to do. i guess neither of us are going to do it. Cool with me.

See when I felt like you weren't addressing my points I went ahead and reiterated them via asking you very simple very direct questions. I didn't make you go back and re-read my points. I went above and beyond because I wanted my points to be addressed.
 
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Bawse Dawg said:
You can use that logic for many teams in history and it hasn't panned out. Those Hornacek Suns are a good example. Ainge also has had tons of teams like that. It's just not as simple as you want to make it. Last season won't matter next year. And it's not some linear growth equation that says we get 45 wins next year.

No depth
Several first or second year players getting major minutes
No obvious team identity or strengths

Does not sound like a killer team. As I've said maybe Lauri is just too good, or Kessler is that dude. But if you can't even fathom the team being bad next year, that is where we'd disagree. You can't be a legitimate playoff team and still be playing the plucky spunky team card. Do we get a bunch of weird *** great performances by not great players when we aren't in the scrappy underdog role all season? Hard to say.

And that's before we even get into the record in close games this season. Every season is its own thing, and maybe not as many variables go in our favor next year. It was a bad season to be as lucky as we were. We'll see how the next one goes. To be clear, I will be rooting for wins from day one next year. But if the season goes south and we end up trying to salvage our draft pick at some point, I won't be shocked.
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So I think this is the post that you want me to address? (not sure, maybe you can confirm.)

No depth: Why did we have no depth this year? Well we did have good depth at one point. Then we traded some of it away and then we sat guys who could play (sexton and clarkson). We WANTED to have no depth. We were trying to lose. That is why I asked you if you think we sit healthy players for long stretches next season like we did this season. If we dont do that and we play sexton and clarkson then our depth is better than it was at the end of this season when we sucked. I also asked if you think we acquire literally zero players this summer. If we do what i think we will do and acquire some player then our depth improves even more. I also asked you if you think we trade a bunch of rotational players for garbage next season. If you answer no to that question then that also improves our depth. Like I dont think jonny zuzang (or whatever lol), JTA, or dok get any minutes next year. I 100% definitely feel very confident our depth is better next year. Could it be worse? Anything is possible but i feel confident in saying it wont be worse.

Several first or second year players getting major minutes: I want kessler and ochai getting major minutes. They got major minutes this season right? Performed admirably. If we retain clarkson then that concern lessons as ochai minutes goes down. If we play sexton then again, ochai minutes goes down. If we spend some money in free agency (this goes back to my question about if you think we add zero players next summer) like i expect us to then minutes for those first and second year players goes down.

No obvious team identity or strength: We had an amazing top of the league offense for most of the year (someone else posted that we finished the season in the top 5). Especially when we weren't sitting healthy players and trading dudes for garbage. Hardy is an awesome coach. Part of our identity is we never quit. Never go down easy. Always keep it close. We literally tied an all time record for most games decided by a point or less. We led the league in games decided by 10 point or less. So there are two strengths/identities. Very hard working fighting team with a tremendous offense and an amazing coach. Sounds good to me.

As for you saying that i cant even fathom the team being bad or whatever, I already addressed that too. I said its possible we are bad. Anything is possible. I just think its unlikely.

And your last point. We won some close games. We lost some close games (do you have our record in close games btw. I would be curious to see it). That happens. I think its likely that our experience in so many close games helps us going forward. Being in a lot of close games and winning a decent amount is a good thing for our future in my opinion. That bodes well to show good coaching and clutch players who can finish.


That better?
 
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Warriors are going to play it safe and go with Kris Murray. They took Baldwin last year, who is essentially the long-shot high upside version of Murray, so why not get more NBA ready version?

Thought about higher upside scorers and defenders like Sensabaugh, Rupert, Lewis, but I like Murray's fit and he provides help for Warriors on both sides of the ball where they need it.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Warriors are going to play it safe and go with Kris Murray. They took Baldwin last year, who is essentially the long-shot high upside version of Murray, so why not get more NBA ready version?

Thought about higher upside scorers and defenders like Sensabaugh, Rupert, Lewis, but I like Murray's fit and he provides help for Warriors on both sides of the ball where they need it.
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That’s actually a pretty good fit/pick. Warriors ain’t got no more time for projects.
 
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