da ThRONe
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They already have. Love is a better player than Hayward. Some people fanhood really make them blind.
Move On From Hayward?
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They already have. Love is a better player than Hayward. Some people fanhood really make them blind.
They had a good year in the regular season, I'd still take our team 10/10 times, especially Hayward over Thomas.
LoPo
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Lebron would give up both of his ********* to have Hayward instead of Love right now.
da ThRONe
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Agreed it would take a third team like Sacramento willing to ship out a player like Cousins. Getting back this year 3rd next year Nets pick, M. Smart, T. Thompson, and some other assets may be enough to enticethe Kings or Pacers to trade away their star players.
da ThRONe
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Doubt it Hayward is essentially a starving man's LeBron. I didn't see the Cavs trading Wiggins and Bennett for Hayward.
First of all welcome to the board. Second - this team won't be able to score 70 points a game. You have two players who can create shots for themselves and you trade the first and bench the second one. This team is not going anywhere, but on it's way for a top 10 pick. Next year's draft is pretty good, but I'm not sure I'd be willing to do that to my team and its fans.
OH and BTW, we missed a ton of games due to injury. Starting PG actually missed all 82 games, our 6th man missed 51 games, our starting PF missed 20 games, and our starting C missed 21.
Meanwhile Boston's top 5 scorers missed a combined 17 games. That's right, Boston's 5 best players missed less games combined than Derrick Favors.
But that has nothing to do with anything tho, right? Boston >>>>>>>>>>>>> Utah amirite?
This rookie 2nd round pick PG named Raul Neto also played 81 games for us while Boston's two 1st round pick rookies didnt even play half of his minutes combined.
If you can't count, that's a combined 174 games missed from 4 of our top 6 players.
da ThRONe
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That was the coaches decision to play a guy that wasn't ready.
Right, we should have played Burke instead? Injuries kind of leave your hands tied buddy.
lol. GTFO this board, Burke isnt going to be here after this off-season.
Health, Eastern conference, bench, luck, Brad Stevens.
If we had a draft between the Jazz and the Celtics there might be 4 Jazz players I'd take before I take the first Boston player. Please don't come with this Thomas superstar BS. Yes, he's good for what he is, but he still is a 5'8'' PG who cannot guard his own shadow and has been exposed two years in a row in the playoffs. Favors and Hayward would probably be all-stars in the east too. They also have one of the deepest benches in the league.
The top of our roster is pretty damn good and is much better than Boston's! Our woes begin when we start subbing the Trey Burks and Trevor Bookers in. We need to get healthy and add some good bench depth, not blow it up.
I've been posting this for several days because it is extremely encouraging, the lineup data of our best 7 players:
starting lineup with Neto: +7.2 net rating
starting lineup with Mack: +10.2 net rating
Burks+starting lineup(triple wing): +11.3 net rating.
Lyles instead of Gobert + starting lineup(Neto lineup): +11.4 net rating.
Lyles instead of Favors + starting lineup(Neto lineup): +9.0 net rating
Lyles instead of Favors + starting lineup(Mack lineup): +19.9 net rating
Exum + starting lineup last year(with Exum and Hood being rookies): +10.8 net rating
starting lineup with Neto: +7.2 net rating
starting lineup with Mack: +10.2 net rating
Burks+starting lineup(triple wing): +11.3 net rating.
Lyles instead of Gobert + starting lineup(Neto lineup): +11.4 net rating.
Lyles instead of Favors + starting lineup(Neto lineup): +9.0 net rating
Lyles instead of Favors + starting lineup(Mack lineup): +19.9 net rating
Exum + starting lineup last year(with Exum and Hood being rookies): +10.8 net rating
I wouldn't trade Hayward for the #3 pick in most drafts. That's such a **** offering for a guy with his resume.
RandyForRubio
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Why do people like Barnes so much?
With all his talent, and all his opportunity, he still hasn't done anything! Calling him a poor mans Hayward is doing Hayward a disservice.
With all his talent, and all his opportunity, he still hasn't done anything! Calling him a poor mans Hayward is doing Hayward a disservice.
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there's the argument of constrained role (like when Harden exploded after leaving OKC, even though he was putting up some insane advanced stats in that last season-- ppl just didn't know what would happen after he left OKC).
I do think that Barnes can do more on offence than what we've seen, but one thing that worries me is his three-point shooting.
I mean c'mon. If you have Steph and Klay on your team, everyone should be gunning 40% on multiple, multiple attempts. The lack of volume form Barnes is concerning, and I'd totally imagine him dropping to like 35% if he went to another team.
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Never, not in college, not in the NBA, has he shown that he can create his own offense. Never has he shown the ability to create for others. He's a pretty good defender, he can shoot fairly well, and he's an ok rebounder. That's it. He tests very athletically, but doesn't play like it. He would be awful here.