My dad voted for Trump

[str8line]

Damn, nearly nine years since this thread.

I haven't disowned my dad, as tough as it still is to reconcile that he supports the Pig. The other day I was talking with him on the phone and he brought up Elon's DOGE and I said Trump is ruining a lot of peoples lives. He said he wasn't. I couldn't help pointing out, "well, he kind of ruined yours."

The backstory is my dad(84) until recently had a girlfriend, Maria(89), who is from Germany like he is. They met about six years ago at the German club and are both widows. They live near each other in the Detroit area and used to have dinner together every night at her house. She knew my dad was a Trumper but after this last election she couldn't come to grips with the fact he voted for him again. She was born in 1935 in the southwest of Germany and her family lost everything because of the war. She sees Trump as another Hitler and is terrified. I've been to her house several times and spent a decent amount of time with her and she's well educated, well read, and up on current events. We've talked about Trump and she has confided in me how conflicted she is being with my dad. At the end of her life she is in stark terror that her children/grandchildren/great-grandchildren will suffer under this modern Hitler. Well, sadly for the both of them they haven't seen each other in months. They did talk on the phone once in a while but lately she won't answer his calls.

I feel sorry for them. Other than this wedge they had no issues. Its not all that surprising though, Trump has been shredding relationships across the USA for nine years. **** Trump.

 

[fishonjazz]

Damn, nearly nine years since this thread.

I haven't disowned my dad, as tough as it still is to reconcile that he supports the Pig. The other day I was talking with him on the phone and he brought up Elon's DOGE and I said Trump is ruining a lot of peoples lives. He said he wasn't. I couldn't help pointing out, "well, he kind of ruined yours."

The backstory is my dad(84) until recently had a girlfriend, Maria(89), who is from Germany like he is. They met about six years ago at the German club and are both widows. They live near each other in the Detroit area and used to have dinner together every night at her house. She knew my dad was a Trumper but after this last election she couldn't come to grips with the fact he voted for him again. She was born in 1935 in the southwest of Germany and her family lost everything because of the war. She sees Trump as another Hitler and is terrified. I've been to her house several times and spent a decent amount of time with her and she's well educated, well read, and up on current events. We've talked about Trump and she's confided in me how conflicted she is being with my dad. It's not hyperbole to say that at the end of her life she is in stark terror that her children/grandchildren/great-grandchildren are at risk by a madman. Well, sadly for the both of them they haven't seen each other in months. They did talk on the phone once in a while but lately she won't answer his calls.

I feel sorry for them. Other than this wedge they had no issues. Its not all that surprising though, Trump has been shredding relationships across the USA for nine years. **** Trump.

Good post, thanks for sharing.
Ya trump has this effect on the entire country. He is so bad for society. Bad for mental health.
Dude has a syndrome named after him that afflicts millions of Americans for **** sake.

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[Rubashov]

Damn, nearly nine years since this thread.

I haven't disowned my dad, as tough as it still is to reconcile that he supports the Pig. The other day I was talking with him on the phone and he brought up Elon's DOGE and I said Trump is ruining a lot of peoples lives. He said he wasn't. I couldn't help pointing out, "well, he kind of ruined yours."

The backstory is my dad(84) until recently had a girlfriend, Maria(89), who is from Germany like he is. They met about six years ago at the German club and are both widows. They live near each other in the Detroit area and used to have dinner together every night at her house. She knew my dad was a Trumper but after this last election she couldn't come to grips with the fact he voted for him again. She was born in 1935 in the southwest of Germany and her family lost everything because of the war. She sees Trump as another Hitler and is terrified. I've been to her house several times and spent a decent amount of time with her and she's well educated, well read, and up on current events. We've talked about Trump and she has confided in me how conflicted she is being with my dad. At the end of her life she is in stark terror that her children/grandchildren/great-grandchildren will suffer under this modern Hitler. Well, sadly for the both of them they haven't seen each other in months. They did talk on the phone once in a while but lately she won't answer his calls.

I feel sorry for them. Other than this wedge they had no issues. Its not all that surprising though, Trump has been shredding relationships across the USA for nine years. **** Trump.

That's really sad mate.

 

[PJF]

My dad was born and raised in Germany during WW2. He never knew his father because his dad was a casualty in the battle of Stalingrad. My dad and his family suffered through post-WW2 Germany with food shortages, etc., where the horrors of Hitler came into full focus.

I am so disgusted. Sucks to have almost no respect for your own father. I wish I could say that this was just a political difference.



EDIT: This is from JJAS on post 21 of this thread and he put it so much better than I could have. My feelings match his:

Thank you JJAS




I can relate with str8line on this. It's not just a difference of opinion in this election. It's a bit like a line in the sand. Many of you who hate both candidates and feel that there is no difference between them probably do have a hard time understanding his feelings. I personally know no rational person that is voting for Trump (I don't count people on Jazzfanz). My family has recognized Trump's despicable nature from the very beginning, thank God.

Justified or not, I feel a deep animus for people who are voting for Trump because everything about Trump is the exact opposite of who I am and what I have come to value in life. When people choose Trump, they choose nearly everything that I despise in this world. By association, they become a person that negates everything that I hold dear.

At the same time, I can see that they are good people, and that I can still enjoy their company. However, deep inside, I remember when the time came to choose, they chose this piece of trash and therefore potentially put my children and world in jeopardy, while embracing all of the evils Trump has openly espoused and propagated.

I've never ever felt anything even close to this. In years past, I haven't even cared who people have voted for. I've given it almost zero thought. Trump has been an absolute game-changer for me, and its affected me like very few things. I've been sick for a week. My feelings of this threat have been as visceral as anything I've ever experienced. In short, I can understand the betrayal and animus that Str8line is feeling, even with his own dad.

The degree to which a person normally cares about seemingly insignificant things is normally a direct correlation to how much they care about large things. Everything is compounded. If you're normally someone who let's everything slide, then it will be the same thing in this case.

Smart man