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Need legal counsel/advice.

Dr. Jones said:
Same story, except I already walked her down the aisle. The biological dad didn't even get an invite.
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My 13 year olds biological was a crap dad while healthy. Then he got drunk, rode a 4 wheeler into a brick wall and cracked his head like an egg. Now he is mentally handicapped and his family wants to act like he was some fantastic father. I look forward to walking her down the isle and seeing all their outraged expressions.
 
Working on getting my 5 yo daughter biological dad to sign her over. He hasn't done it yet out of principle. He's a crap dad. We are letting his back child support add up then we'll tell him we won't pursue it if he will sign her over. Its a process.
 
Beer said:
Working on getting my 5 yo daughter biological dad to sign her over. He hasn't done it yet out of principle. He's a crap dad. We are letting his back child support add up then we'll tell him we won't pursue it if he will sign her over. Its a process.
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This is what my adoptive mom did with my 1st adoptive father. She kept quiet for 16 years while the child support he was not paying racked up for me and my brother. When it was 30k for me and another 30k for my brother she had an attorney call him.

Took them 30 minutes to get the papers signed and I suddenly had no legal father lol. Got adopted again by my step dad (since I was 5) when I was 31.
 
Scat said:
No, I mean the guy that got my future wife pregnant and had a child with her. When I came into the picture and wanted to adopt her he would hear nothing of it. He rarely if ever saw her and never paid his child support. My wife said fine, let's start acting like you are the father and set up visitation and get your child support payments caught up. It took him all of about 3 days to decide he really didn't want to pay all that money and signed away his rights. She has been mine since she was 1 and next month I get to walk her down the aisle. BOOM BITCHES!
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I thought this may be the case but didn't want to be presumptuous.

You're a good man, Charlie Brown. And that guy's a ****ing bum.
 
DutchJazzer said:
he technically will.

since in most western laws when a married woman has a kid. the husband of the wife is by law the father.

so you will need to rectify that

you will have to legally challenge the paternity, preferably after divorce.


congrats man

edit: their might be a difference in you jurisdiction. especially with the restraining order out. but probably not. he is just the father by law.
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The State is unwilling to let any potential responsible male off the hook for child support. I doubt even a document attesting paternity at the hospital will outweigh the State interest, so I believe Dutch is right after all. It might be difficult, on the same premise, to remove the legal husband from the list of potential financial responsibility even for a child born within some months after the divorce is final.

I worked in a paternity testing lab once for a while, but I was doing research on antigens, and I didn't pay much attention. The girls at the front desk, and the girls who did the paternity tests, sometimes gossiped about how many potential fathers some babies had. The State wouldn't let up on any of them as long as it couldn't be absolutely ruled out.

Here is a bit from Wikipedia on the point:

On the other hand, it could be the case where several putative fathers are fighting to establish custody. In such case, in the US, because of the Supreme Court ruling in 1989, Michael H. v. Gerald D., the mother's legal husband takes precedent over the others, even if he is not the biological father. This decision, wrote Elizabeth Wurtzel in The Atlantic, showed the court favored "stable family matters more than biology."[4]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternity_(law)
 
babe said:
The State is unwilling to let any potential responsible male off the hook for child support. I doubt even a document attesting paternity at the hospital will outweigh the State interest, so I believe Dutch is right after all. It might be difficult, on the same premise, to remove the legal husband from the list of potential financial responsibility even for a child born within some months after the divorce is final.

I worked in a paternity testing lab once for a while, but I was doing research on antigens, and I didn't pay much attention. The girls at the front desk, and the girls who did the paternity tests, sometimes gossiped about how many potential fathers some babies had. The State wouldn't let up on any of them as long as it couldn't be absolutely ruled out.

Here is a bit from Wikipedia on the point:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternity_(law)
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ofcourse i am right because unlike the liberal media and the lbgtqrstuvwxyz+ lobby would like you to belive mariage is for procration and kids are central
but people nowadays are too stupid to realise what mariage is for and why it is forever.
**** the left and LBGTQ, before you try and inslut me by calling me a bigot. I AM A BIGOT AND PROUD OF IT!
 
Beer said:
Working on getting my 5 yo daughter biological dad to sign her over. He hasn't done it yet out of principle. He's a crap dad. We are letting his back child support add up then we'll tell him we won't pursue it if he will sign her over. Its a process.
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I think that sounds pretty horrible of you unless the dude is abusive. My little bro has a crap dad and was basically adopted(not legally but in every other sense) by my father even though my parents were divorced. My dad coached his sports teams, was there for him for every birthday, and my brother(now an adult) still calls him dad. Still when his father did come around it was important to him. He has accepted his birth father for what he is and is thankful for knowing some of his other family members. He came to a decision about his father on his own terms. He would have resented my mother if she would have forced that on him. Again, short of abuse I don't think people should leverage the courts to force a parent out of a childs life.
 
Why watch Maury Povich when you can read Jazzfanz? But I do applaud you men for being able to take on that level of drama. Life is stressful enough to be adding baby mommas, dead beat exes, and child support. I have to tip my hat to religous upbringing to giving me a boring life. A virgin who married a virgin and now we have two girls, a dog and a mortgage. Drama consists of our weekend plans and staying on a monthly budget.
 
Beantown said:
Why watch Maury Povich when you can read Jazzfanz? But I do applaud you men for being able to take on that level of drama. Life is stressful enough to be adding baby mommas, dead beat exes, and child support. I have to tip my hat to religous upbringing to giving me a boring life. A virgin who married a virgin and now we have two girls, a dog and a mortgage. Drama consists of our weekend plans and staying on a monthly budget.
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And I thought I acted like I was better than people...
 
♪alt13 said:
I think that sounds pretty horrible of you unless the dude is abusive. My little bro has a crap dad and was basically adopted(not legally but in every other sense) by my father even though my parents were divorced. My dad coached his sports teams, was there for him for every birthday, and my brother(now an adult) still calls him dad. Still when his father did come around it was important to him. He has accepted his birth father for what he is and is thankful for knowing some of his other family members. He came to a decision about his father on his own terms. He would have resented my mother if she would have forced that on him. Again, short of abuse I don't think people should leverage the courts to force a parent out of a childs life.
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You cannot take an absolute stand like that. In some cases it is by far what's best for the child and in some cases it isn't.

In my case I was far, far, far better off without my original adoptive dad. But my 13 year old, as much as this sticks in my craw, would be worse off without her biological dad in her life.
 
Beantown said:
Why watch Maury Povich when you can read Jazzfanz? But I do applaud you men for being able to take on that level of drama. Life is stressful enough to be adding baby mommas, dead beat exes, and child support. I have to tip my hat to religous upbringing to giving me a boring life. A virgin who married a virgin and now we have two girls, a dog and a mortgage. Drama consists of our weekend plans and staying on a monthly budget.
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My life was once very similar to yours, and then it was all blown up. The repercussions have been enormous for my daughter's and for me, but the courts consistently give my ex the tools to complicate our relationships because she is considered to be my children's primary custodian.

When I go to my former house (where my name is still on the mortgage) and I am treated like a second class citizen by my former wife and my former neighbor I sometimes want to cry. We had so much going for our family and it all got thrown away. In retrospect there is not a thing I could do to save it. Believe me, I tried everything.

In other words, be thankful for the peace in your life. Don't mock those who are facing complications. You could find yourself in their shoes one day. It would be easier for this to happen than you can ever imagine, and you might have the unpleasant experience of discovering that there is nothing at all you can do to prevent it.
 
♪alt13 said:
I think that sounds pretty horrible of you unless the dude is abusive. My little bro has a crap dad and was basically adopted(not legally but in every other sense) by my father even though my parents were divorced. My dad coached his sports teams, was there for him for every birthday, and my brother(now an adult) still calls him dad. Still when his father did come around it was important to him. He has accepted his birth father for what he is and is thankful for knowing some of his other family members. He came to a decision about his father on his own terms. He would have resented my mother if she would have forced that on him. Again, short of abuse I don't think people should leverage the courts to force a parent out of a childs life.
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Well he,s not there for her, unless he has a family function he wants to take her to to try and show he's a good dad. He doesn't care about seeing her, he doesn't care about helping provide for her, he throws a bitch fit anytime we spend money on her and he's expected to pay for half (stuff like school, dr's appts, er visits, etc ... which he doesn't pay regardless). We aren't forcing anything. He's not around unless it is 100% convenient for him. When he does show up he is hours late and I am the one that gets to sit with a sad little girl on the porch waiting for her pos "dad" to show up on his own time. He hasn't seen her in 3 months and she has been more than fine with it. The less she sees him the happier she is. **** him. He'll sign her over when the financials make sense, thats how great of a dad he is.
 
Beantown said:
Why watch Maury Povich when you can read Jazzfanz? But I do applaud you men for being able to take on that level of drama. Life is stressful enough to be adding baby mommas, dead beat exes, and child support. I have to tip my hat to religous upbringing to giving me a boring life. A virgin who married a virgin and now we have two girls, a dog and a mortgage. Drama consists of our weekend plans and staying on a monthly budget.
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Wait till your wife gets bored and your life gets really complicated.
 
Bean many of those with drama filled lives started out just like you. My ex was my first and now look at my life.

2nd wife and 5 kids (only 3 are mine biolgocally).

But so what? It is exciting and fun.
 
Beantown said:
Not saying I'm better. A good portion of the population would find my life unattractive and boring. I myself like less drama so I'm perfectly happy with my path.
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Drama is about as poor a choice a word as you could've chosen.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
My life was once very similar to yours, and then it was all blown up. The repercussions have been enormous for my daughter's and for me, but the courts consistently give my ex the tools to complicate our relationships because she is considered to be my children's primary custodian.

When I go to my former house (where my name is still on the mortgage) and I am treated like a second class citizen by my former wife and my former neighbor I sometimes want to cry. We had so much going for our family and it all got thrown away. In retrospect there is not a thing I could do to save it. Believe me, I tried everything.

In other words, be thankful for the peace in your life. Don't mock those who are facing complications. You could find yourself in their shoes one day. It would be easier for this to happen than you can ever imagine, and you might have the unpleasant experience of discovering that there is nothing at all you can do to prevent it.
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We all know Beantown's a clown but I honestly don't think he meant anything negative by his comments. He was genuinely commending people here for their selflessness and responsibility all in the name of love.

He chose a bad word in drama is all.
 
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