Neto Not to Play in Summer League
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seattlejazzfan
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This is good. Jazz need to get Exum as many minutes as possible at his natural position. I wish Burke were sitting it out as well.
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Based on what? Maybe you are right but we don't have any real way of knowing. Personally I'd like a depth chart like this:
Favors/Gobert/Tomic
Kanter/Evans/Williams
Hayward/Hood/Williams
Exum/Burks/Hayward
Burke/Neto/Garrett
That's 13 players and a ton of versatility on that team. There are 6-7 guys that can play more than 1 position. Allows for a bunch of potential line up mismatches to exploit.
(I'm assuming that the rumors are correct and they just resign Hayward and Williams)
Hedda Gambler
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If the goal is to create a long time duo of Burke and Exum in the back court, they better play as many minutes together as possible.
Hedda Gambler
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You really think Tomic would come over just to play spot minutes for a bad team?
If the Jazz buy out his contract and bring him over does he really have a choice?
Hedda Gambler
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Err, yeah. If he doesn`t like what he hears from Snyder, he can just stay. In Europe, players actually have a choice where to play, even though they are under contract.
QuinSnydersHair
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I'm sure Marvin would be thrilled to re-sign here and be relegated to third string behind an unproven rookie drafted 23rd.
seattlejazzfan
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Why would that be the goal? Exum is a PG (I had my doubts until watching him play full games - he is indeed a pure point and if he's going to be great it will be as a 6'6" PG) and Burke certainly isn't a SG.
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He has come out and said that he is very open to returning to Utah and that he enjoyed his time here. I'd trust that him and his agent can look at the roster and make logical assumptions as to his playing time.
For example: "While Bartelstein seemed more than optimistic about Hayward, an NBA source said Williams has enjoyed his time in Utah and is "open and willing" to returning to the Jazz. His being an unrestricted free agent makes things more complicated for Utah — as are various reports pegging Williams as being a wanted commodity by title contenders, such as the Miami Heat" - Salt lake Tribune
Jody Genessy: The Jazz hope to re-sign RFA Gordon Hayward and UFA Marvin Williams but aren't expected to be overly active in free agency, per sources
So all I was doing was trying to do is create a realistic roster from the current rumors.
QuinSnydersHair
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Yeah, I'm sure they'd logically assume that he'd go from 25.4 minutes a night on relatively solid play to a bunch of DNP's.
Fine:
Hayward/Williams/Hood.
Happy? Quit nitpicking over the smallest detail. If you have a better scenario that is realistic by all means...
I really don't know how all that works so I won't pretend to.
I just thought that if the Jazz bought out his contract and brought him over that he had to come. Guess I was wrong.
Hedda Gambler
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We have no trades in European sports. If you buy out a player from his contract, you have to agree to a new contract with him. He can deny the move and stay put if he wants to.
QuinSnydersHair
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Oh, now we backtrack. Okay, my point is, as others have eluded to as well regarding Neto and Tomic, that we don't need to go 12 deep. You listed 13 guys and 12 of them should be getting decent minutes. There's 240 minutes in a game. IMO, the time should be allotted as such, with diverse 5-man rotations to see what works. The 10th-13th guys (I say 13 because we typically just keep 13-14 guys) can ride the pine and be content with collecting a paycheck and being able to say they're NBA players.
Burke (32)-Exum (16)
Burks (32)-Exum (16)
Hayward (32)-Hood (16)
Kanter (30)-Favors (6)-Evans (12)
Favors (26)-Gobert (22)
If we suck, we suck. Who cares? We get another high draft pick but at least a year from now have a pretty good idea of what these guys are and what they aren't. Enough screwing around. Get the core major burn.
Stifle Tower
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The goal is to also stagger contracts. I think it's a good idea to let Neto play in Spain one more season. Let's see where Exum is at and give him 30 mins/per. He's supposed to develop into a franchise-level player. It will take a few seasons to get there, but he needs 15 mins behind Burke and 15 behind Burks. There's simply no minutes for Neto right now.
After this year, the Jazz may come to a decision on Burke and Burks and where Exum best fits.
I didn't backtrack a single step. If that's what you think happened then you don't know what a backtrack is.
I am fine with what you have. I was just posting a realistic roster based on current rumors. Some of which I have gone on to list in this thread. As for the "if we suck who cares?". It's not like I was saying that is the team I would want to compete for a championship.
So once again, focus. Based on current rumors those are the players I see Utah going after. It is a realistic scenario. (probably minus Neto based on rumors) If they land them that would be the roster. I just threw them in a depth chart. Snyder can set any depth chart he wants.
Stifle Tower
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Good rotation.
WE need to find a core 8/9, then have vets and/or draft picks to fill in for injuries.
Are the 3 bigs, Kanter, Favors and Gobert? Maybe. Only one way to find out.
Are the 3 guards, Burke, Burks and Exum? Again, only one way to find out.
Can Hayward transition to SF with Hood as the backup? Let's play them and see.
I don't really consider Evans a major part of the team moving forward. Would rather see Utah bring in some one with good size as a PF/C. Then fill the rest of the team with either vets or development players. JLIII is a decent mentor who requires zero playing time. Maybe Murphy has promise as a stretch 4. Might be room for Marvin in a greatly reduced role. Would have to shave off a few minutes here and there from a few players to give him 15-20. And of course, there are always injuries. So really, mins/per on average may add up to 250-260 if you just sum all the players.