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And if he varies 7-8% points that doesn't mean much when more than half the voting public will never, ever, no matter what, vote for him. He can get back a little of his previous support that he'd lost, but he's not picking up undecided voters in any significant way and he's not turning Clinton voters into Trump voters. So....
 
Make sure to get out and vote, Nov. 28th for your man, THE Donald trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_-ZOnRlims
 
Why is it that liberals will excuse all sorts of immoral behavior(including Bill Clinton and Hillary), but when it comes to Trump they will attack any and every little thing?

If Trump hasnt actually sexually assaulted anyone, why would him talking dirty bother you? The left encompasses all the sexual deviants out there. But suddenly now it's despicable?

How does one lie to themselves, and actually believe it?

This world is crazy

What the hell is going on?
 
Why is it that liberals will excuse all sorts of immoral behavior(including Bill Clinton and Hillary), but when it comes to Trump they will attack any and every little thing?

If Trump hasnt actually sexually assaulted anyone, why would him talking dirty bother you? The left encompasses all the sexual deviants out there. But suddenly now it's despicable?

How does one lie to themselves, and actually believe it?

This world is crazy

What the hell is going on?

Seems you've got a hard drive for liberals.

Don't try to figure this stuff out... computers just don't understand humans.
 
Why is it that liberals will excuse all sorts of immoral behavior(including Bill Clinton and Hillary), but when it comes to Trump they will attack any and every little thing?

If Trump hasnt actually sexually assaulted anyone, why would him talking dirty bother you? The left encompasses all the sexual deviants out there. But suddenly now it's despicable?

How does one lie to themselves, and actually believe it?

This world is crazy

What the hell is going on?


It's not about immoral or deviant acts, as you call them. It's about consent. If you can't understand the importance of consent then that's your problem, sorry it's so confusing for you.
 
It's not about immoral or deviant acts, as you call them. It's about consent. If you can't understand the importance of consent then that's your problem, sorry it's so confusing for you.

I'm not defending Trumps words, at all.. but you also have to understand the difference between words and actions if you want to be arguing consent vs. non.
 
CNN had a pole showing he was at 35% through the 8-9 of Oct. Then bummped to 37% on the 10th. Something to that effect. I think 2 percent in a day is some nice steam.

Also, did you see what Stoked said about our state. Remeber you said no way Trump could lose Utah? You were gonna bet money.

polls generally have a margin of error of +or- 3%. It could be a bump, more likely it's just a variation in the poll caused by the 1000 voters that they happened to ask that day.

It takes more than one day and more than one poll to identify a trend.
 
It's not about immoral or deviant acts, as you call them. It's about consent. If you can't understand the importance of consent then that's your problem, sorry it's so confusing for you.

I'm not defending Trumps words, at all.. but you also have to understand the difference between words and actions if you want to be arguing consent vs. non.

What Dr Jones said

As far as I know, nobody has come out and said he grabbed my ***** without consent.

Where are you getting this non consent thing? We are getting back to non factual bizzaro land, where you are believing what you want.

Could you please come outside your bubble and talk? I cant get in your bubble. It doesnt allow brain activity inside. Some kind of force field something.

Ding Dong. I rang the bell again. Lets start over.
 
What Dr Jones said

As far as I know, nobody has come out and said he grabbed my ***** without consent.

Where are you getting this non consent thing? We are getting back to non factual bizzaro land, where you are believing what you want.

Could you please come outside your bubble and talk? I cant get in your bubble. It doesnt allow brain activity inside. Some kind of force field something.

Midnight Ding Dong. I rang the bell again. Lets start over.

fixed
 
You quoted me when I was talking about consent vs. non. Not about being a sexist/chauvinist. That article didn't address the consent issue.

Don't pretend that you read it

Edit: It specifically recounts the story of a former Miss Utah that he kisses on the lips without consent when they first met.
 
Don't pretend that you read it

Edit: It specifically recounts the story of a former Miss Utah that he kisses on the lips without consent when they first met.

I saw that. Give me a break. Creepy but not even remotely close to grabbing *****.
 
I saw that. Give me a break. Creepy but not even remotely close to grabbing *****.

It's exactly what he describes in the line just before he says GEBTP on the access holywood video.(which is why I pointed that out) It's also far from the only allegation.
 
I'm not defending Trumps words, at all.. but you also have to understand the difference between words and actions if you want to be arguing consent vs. non.
I agree with this. Taking about sexual stuff or having consensual sex is something that might make you a perv to some but nothing really wrong with it, that's your own business. Talking about molesting a person is despicable but nothing illegal. Actually doing it is a crime you should be punished for. There is a difference between all three. Trump's words are nothing he should be punished for but it is something to give us an idea of his character. If this was an isolated incident it probably would be less of an issue but it seems his disrespect for women has a pattern. If I was a Trump supporter this would disappoint me, but wouldn't stop me from voting for him. If it is proven he has done anything like this it would stop me from voting for him. Good thing I am not a Trump fan, I don't have to worry about where my line is for voting for him.
 
This is funnier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLYHu0AG8GI


Pretty funny indeed.

For my money, this is pretty darned funny too.

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Now that it appears Trump will go down in flames, we can pause and thank whomever we choose to thank that we are not now contemplating this dominionist arsewipe as a possible president.
 
I'm not defending Trumps words, at all.. but you also have to understand the difference between words and actions if you want to be arguing consent vs. non.
He's bragging about molesting people because he's famous. He didn't molest anyone on that tape, but he brags about being able to and implies that he has.

I ended a friendship with a person I had known since I was 2 years old because he and his new group of friends joked about what amounted to date rape and I didn't think it was as funny as they did. People want to act like this is fake outrage, but for me this is something I have found unacceptable my entire adolescent and adult life.

You want to split hairs on this, that's fine. I obviously didn't consider Trump qualified to hold the office of the U.S. President before this tape and I only feel more strongly now. And it seems I must continue to remind people that I hate Donald Trump so much that I should not be considered a rational participant in these conversations. I think I've had to say that six times now.
 
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