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ONE LOVE said:
The "FORCE" can't be strong for everybody.... it also depends how well you cumulate and uses the force that you have, etc. Rey clearly is a quick learner and picks it up and uses it very well.
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My hell one butt. He's been using the force in the dark Side for 15 years. She hasn't even begun training as a Jedi. And the dark side is stronger then the light.


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Face it. They screwed up with this character. All there is to be done is kill him off and let Luke take over and turn darkside.


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Thee jazz fan said:
Did I stutter. We learn this in the other Star Wars movies. Siths seek power while Jedi seek peace


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"Strength" is even.

In normal circumstances, power of the "light" side is distributed over 100s of individuals. Power of "dark" side confined to two.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
My hell one butt. He's been using the force in the dark Side for 15 years. She hasn't even begun training as a Jedi. And the dark side is stronger then the light.


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Vader had been training as a Jedi for over 10 years and was a Sith for decades. Leia can't even use the force. Vader was a terrible character and should have been replaced in the middle of New Hope.
 
Sure seems like Anakin was a stronger sith the moment he turned. Ren was a darkside user for 15 damned years. He's a joke. They shouldn't have let Rey kick his ***. We need Luke to save the rest of these movies he'd be the greatest badass as a sith ever.


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Thee jazz fan said:
Sure seems like Anakin was a stronger sith the moment he turned. Ren was a darkside user for 15 damned years. He's a joke. They shouldn't have let Rey kick his ***. We need Luke to save the rest of these movies he'd be the greatest badass as a sith ever.


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Because he was a Jedi when he turned. He had already been focusing his abilities for the same length of time as Ren, except Anakin was the balance to the force, aka the most in tune with the force over many generations. And yet he still lost to a pretty middling Jedi (Kenobi) and couldn't overwhelm a non-force user (Leia) and you expect a standard non-master Sith to be better than what Vader was?
 
Anyone know who are Rey's parents?


I thought Ren and Rey could be brothers and sisters but clearly that's not the case or Leia would have revealed that already.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Wouldn't it be a more exciting series if Luke, the most powerful force user went bad?


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It might be exciting, but it wouldn't make sense... why put yourself in exile only to turn bad later? It would be like Yoda turning to the dark side... it would ruin the consistency and integrity of the whole story.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I don't want the main bad to be weak. Doesn't do a damn thing for me. Also he was Luke's student when he was turned.


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He's not the main bad. It's established that he's on same footing, politically, as the storm trooper leader guy. Vader essentially was the main bad in New Hope.
 
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He's not the main bad. It's established that he's on same footing, politically, as the storm trooper leader guy. Vader essentially was the main bad in New Hope.
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Then who is? Lol. Snoke seems like a emperor type. He's more behind the scenes it certainly isn't one of those general guys or the silver storm trooper. If it's not Ren, who?


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Thee jazz fan said:
What the hell was he doing for 15 years, twiddling his thumbs. My whole point is. I'm not too excited about a sith that can't even take a girl that has had no training and just found out she is a Jedi or has Jedi powers.


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But isn't she lukes daughter? Maybe that makes her more badass than normal
 
Ren is Leah's son. Leah is Luke's sister. Also. It's not a sure thing that Luke is Rey's father. The movie only hints at this due to the business with Luke's old saber. At this point it's only speculation more then fact, though I'm 90% sure she is Luke's daughter.


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