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Gyp Rosetti said:
Agreed. Probably part of the reason why the mother of the victim doesn't want the guy to be prosecuted.
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I didn't know that. I realized right after I typed my response that I probly shouldn't have said anything because I know next to nothing about the case besides the very basic facts.
 
UGLI baby said:
Call me a douche, but I doubt he forced his teammate who died to ride in the car with him.

They were out drinking together and were both at fault to similar degrees. It's even possible that the guy who died was happy his teammate would drive home so that he didn't have to be the drunken driver.

It's obviously terrible to drink and drive at all, but his friend dying was an accident. He's not a murderer or anything.

It would be 10x more upsetting to me if he had killed another driver or innocent party. I don't think you can count someone who gets into a car with a drunk person a completely innocent party.

Having said all that, it is weird they would have him on the sidelines.
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Weird? He just got out of jail for killing someone.
 
Chad Feldheimer said:
Weird? He just got out of jail for killing someone.
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What happened is terrible, that's obvious, but do you consider the person who died completely innocent in all this?

They were both doing something wrong at the time and the death was an accident.

The real crime is that they were both putting innocent peoples lives at risk.
 
UGLI baby said:
What happened is terrible, that's obvious, but do you consider the person who died completely innocent in all this?

They were both doing something wrong at the time and the death was an accident.

The real crime is that they were both putting innocent peoples lives at risk.
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Yep.
 
UGLI baby said:
What happened is terrible, that's obvious, but do you consider the person who died completely innocent in all this?

They were both doing something wrong at the time and the death was an accident.

The real crime is that they were both putting innocent peoples lives at risk.
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How is driving drunk an accident? He made the adult decision to drink and drive. Which by the way was not his first DUI. I never said he killed anyone innocent. They we both dumb asses.
 
Chad Feldheimer said:
How is driving drunk an accident? He made the adult decision to drink and drive. Which by the way was not his first DUI. I never said he killed anyone innocent. They we both dumb asses.
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Yeah, you're not really getting what I'm saying.

The fact that he was drinking and driving isn't in question and the wrongness of that isn't in question.

Just saying that he didn't purposely kill his friend, and I'd put the guy who died at equal fault in his own death.

If two people are out in a field playing with illegal explosives and one of them gets blown up, is that murder to you, or an accident?
 
Yeah, I fully agree with UGLI here. This doesn't make the guy an awful guy who should be crucified. Especially since most of us have driven drunk and/or gotten into a car with a drunk driver. We're complete ********. Not the anti-Christ.
 
UGLI baby said:
Yeah, you're not really getting what I'm saying.

The fact that he was drinking and driving isn't in question and the wrongness of that isn't in question.

Just saying that he didn't purposely kill his friend, and I'd put the guy who died at equal fault in his own death.

If two people are out in a field playing with illegal explosives and one of them gets blown up, is that murder to you, or an accident?
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If they are both playing illegal explosives? They are both committing crimes. But that is different. Only one of them was driving. So only one of them could have committed a crime (DUI) which resulted in a death. What his friend did was stupid. What Brent did was both stupid and criminal.
 
Chad Feldheimer said:
If they are both playing illegal explosives? They are both committing crimes. But that is different. Only one of them was driving. So only one of them could have committed a crime (DUI) which resulted in a death. What his friend did was stupid. What Brent did was both stupid and criminal.
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So what if one guy was lighting the explosives and the other guy was just there watching and the guy watching died?

PS I'm not so sure what we're doing here anymore.
 
UGLI baby said:
Ok, fantasy football fanatics. I'm in the first week of my two week championship matchup in a 12 team league. My team is STACKED, but I have some tough choices this week.

I'm starting Doug Martin, CJ Spiller and Victor Cruz for sure, but I need to pick 2 more guys to start out of these...

Randall Cobb- playing against the Bears
Darren McFadden- plays Chiefs, sprained his ankle at the end of the last game
Roddy White- plays Giants, hurt his knee and hasn't practiced all week. Game Time decision, hasn't missed a game in his career.
David Wilson- plays ATL, Bradshaw is out so Wilson is the starter. Tore it up last week.
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Since I know y'all have been wondering all day how my fantasy football team is doing...

I started,

Doug Martin (3.5 points)
CJ Spiller (16.1 points)
Victor Cruz (1.5 points)
Randall Cobb (9.5 points)
David Wilson (6.6 points)

Didn't start:

Roddy White (1.6 points)
Darren McFadden (12.9 points)

It came down to Randall Cobb vs Roddy White, glad I went with Cobb. Wish I had started McFadden, but I really thought David Wilson was gonna have a big game.

My team sucked today but I'm still in it because the guy I'm playing is sucking too. He had RGIII but had to start Carson Palmer with him out. Got lucky there.
 
Gyp Rosetti said:
They made the SB last year with a horrid defense. I guess that doesn't count though.
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Ok, they went but he hasn't won them. Right after the first loss against the Giants the Pats seemed to take over the Colts' playbook of having a great offense but fluttering out in the playoffs.
 
UGLI baby said:
Call me a douche, but I doubt he forced his teammate who died to ride in the car with him.

They were out drinking together and were both at fault to similar degrees. It's even possible that the guy who died was happy his teammate would drive home so that he didn't have to be the drunken driver.

It's obviously terrible to drink and drive at all, but his friend dying was an accident. He's not a murderer or anything.

It would be 10x more upsetting to me if he had killed another driver or innocent party. I don't think you can count someone who gets into a car with a drunk person a completely innocent party.

Having said all that, it is weird they would have him on the sidelines.
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I agree. There are times as a teenager when I would be in a car where the driver was on LSD or mushrooms, and so was I. It would have been just as much my fault as his if he would have caused a wreck, and I certainly knew what was going on (well, to the degree anyone does when they are on hallucinogenics).
 
Kaepernick is playing like ish.

Niners D playing amazing.

Learn how to recieve a snap under Center, Kaeperpick.
 
Kaepernick
14/25 56%
216 Yards
4 TD
1 INT
1 Sack
107.7 Rating

Brady
36/65 55.4%
443 Yards
1 TD
2 INT
3 Sacks
68.9 Rating

Look who outplayed Brady. Did Kaepernick have some issues with taking the snap under center? Yes, but did you not notice the rain falling all game long? Kaepernick played great, and got the win on the road. The last time the Patriots lost at home in December was against the NY Jets on Dec. 22, 2002. This was a big win for the 49ers, and a great performance by Kaepernick. I'm very pleased.
 
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