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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, but if they Jazz arent trying to sign anyone in 2018, why does it matter?

Take into account Burks is owed 10 million next year. So basically the Jazz would just be taking on additional 6 million to get a 1st rounder.
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Yeah we would do it with zero second thoughts. I'm with Cy here.

The bigger question is would we do the Thabo/JJ deal... because they would not do the AB deal in my mind. AB is actually like 11.5 next year I think
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Yeah we would do it with zero second thoughts. I'm with Cy here.

The bigger question is would we do the Thabo/JJ deal... because they would not do the AB deal in my mind. AB is actually like 11.5 next year I think
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Send out Johnson but keep Thabo. I really wouldn't want to trade Thabo for what we'd get in return.
 
infection said:
Send out Johnson but keep Thabo. I really wouldn't want to trade Thabo for what we'd get in return.
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Thabo would be cut next year if we did this trade and kept him. If Utah takes on 16 million next year and doesnt find a trade for Burks or Rubio, then they would probably have to cut Udoh/Thabo/Jonas just to save money (again depending on the Hood/Exum thing).
 
Cy is right about our possible luxury situation if we took Ajinca AND Asik. However, I don't see us doing that. Maybe Asik and their first for Burks. I'd probably do that. I wish we knew more about how much Asik is owed from that non-guarantee in 2019-20.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I dont think the Jazz could do that.

They would still have Burks 10 million next year, and it would put them in a dangerous LT situation depending on what Exum and Hood get paid.
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I agree some other salary cap maneuvers would be needed, but I am also not sure we are keeping Hood in trade or FA if he gets a big offer.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Thabo would be cut next year if we did this trade and kept him. If Utah takes on 16 million next year and doesnt find a trade for Burks or Rubio, then they would probably have to cut Udoh/Thabo/Jonas just to save money (again depending on the Hood/Exum thing).
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I don't know that much about the cap situation under different hypotheticals, but I'd find it hard to believe the FO would put us in a situation where we'd have to cut good guys on really good contracts.
 
LoPo said:
Cy is right about our possible luxury situation if we took Ajinca AND Asik. However, I don't see us doing that. Maybe Asik and their first for Burks. I'd probably do that. I wish we knew more about how much Asik is owed from that non-guarantee in 2019-20.
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Cy was right... its $3m
 
infection said:
I don't know that much about the cap situation under different hypotheticals, but I'd find it hard to believe the FO would put us in a situation where we'd have to cut good guys on really good contracts.
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I think they would want Thabo for the stretch run... JJ is really cap filler at this point.
 
LoPo said:
If all this is true, I would could hypothetically be on board with:

Asik, Ajinca and NOLA's 2018 1st for Burks: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycg4nyql

then

Kennard and Detroit's 2018 1st for Hood: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7ap5yov

Instead of paying Hood and Burks $25-30 combined next year, we are paying Asik, Ajinca and Kennard less than $20. We add 2 1st rounders that we hope to package to do more trades.
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Dude... Hood ain't getting Kennard and a pick... it might get the pick... maybe if SVG is desperate. You'd likely have to take on Boban or something else to get the first rounder.
 
LoPo said:
That $3 million looks a lot better than what could be almost $12, but $3 million is still a decent player. That shouldn't be overlooked. We would be paying $3 million for absolutely nothing instead of a Neto, Udoh or O'Neal.
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Minimum guys can be signed once over the cap... the 3M doesn't change the fact that we would have max space next year.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Dude... Hood ain't getting Kennard and a pick... it might get the pick... maybe if SVG is desperate. You'd likely have to take on Boban or something else to get the first rounder.
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Woj said that Detroit tried to use Kennard and Jackson to get Evan Fournier but it couldn't happen because Jackson was hurt. If I had to guess, Jackson is not an asset anyway. He's overpaid and quite inefficient.
 
LoPo said:
Woj said that Detroit tried to use Kennard and Jackson to get Evan Fournier but it couldn't happen because Jackson was hurt. If I had to guess, Jackson is not an asset anyway. He's overpaid and quite inefficient.
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Exactly so they wanted to dump a contract with Kennard to get Fournier (a better player than Hood who is also cost controlled). That is not the same as a 1st and Kennard for Hood. They want to keep Bradley and paying Bradley and Hood throws them into luxury tax hell.
 
cooldude32 said:
What is a blue player option?
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Yes. There is a little key at the bottom of the salaries. The purple color is non-guaranteed and that amount depends on the player's contract. For example, Asik's 2019-20 contract isn't guaranteed but it would still cost the team $3million that season if the team let him go.
 
cooldude32 said:
What is a blue player option?
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It's the color that site uses to say it is a player option. It wasn't blue though... some purple type color. That is how I misread it.
 
LoPo said:
Yes. There is a little key at the bottom of the salaries. The purple color is non-guaranteed and that amount depends on the player's contract. For example, Asik's 2019-20 contract isn't guaranteed but it would still cost the team $3million that season if the team let him go.
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Oh okay thanks.
 
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