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No consent pelvic exams while under anesthesia

jazzfan1971 said:
This is wild. How much easier would it be to just put an ad on Craigslist for a female willing to undergo 30 pelvic exams for 200$ It's not that hard to find someone willing to help train these doctors. No need to go about this on the down low.
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If they need any male volunteers I would sign up to get paid

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infection said:
Is this a function of someone not understanding ‘how good computer-generated imagery has gotten’ or is it a function of someone else not understanding, or being experienced with, clinical medicine to realize that this assertion is false?
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At this point it's just a function of hoping you shut up.
 
jazzfan1971 said:
This is wild. How much easier would it be to just put an ad on Craigslist for a female willing to undergo 30 pelvic exams for 200$ It's not that hard to find someone willing to help train these doctors. No need to go about this on the down low.
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This was some time ago but a random guy was going door-to-door offering free breast exams. He got a few takers...
 
fishonjazz said:
Ya no doubt it would be different for a woman, like most things.

Hell, probably most men would be very upset.

Just me personally, idgaf if it happened to me. Too logical. My life doesn't change from it one bit and I don't care if people see me naked. Never have.

I also don't care if the government wants to spy on me. (I know that is another topic all together and totally different). Let them watch me go about my lame boring day to day activities. Idgaf.

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Rather than someone "seeing you naked", it's really more akin to someone sticking a speculum up your butt, spreading it open, taking scrapings from the linings of your tissues, feeling up in there with fingers for lumps and abnormalities, and more. Much more invasive than "seeing you naked". I mean if you still dgaf about that, thats cool. I just wouldn't want to find out that had happened to my wife without her knowing.


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jazzfan1971 said:
This is wild. How much easier would it be to just put an ad on Craigslist for a female willing to undergo 30 pelvic exams for 200$ It's not that hard to find someone willing to help train these doctors. No need to go about this on the down low.
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I see what you did there.
 
Harambe said:
At this point it's just a function of hoping you shut up.
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So you don’t have anything to backup your assertion of it being widespread other than your own misunderstandings? Got it.

Most people are responding as if people are going in to have their appendix or gallbladder out and getting a pelvic exam. That’s not widespread. At all. That’d be a huge anomaly. It’s more like palpating ovaries through the vaginal canal in a procedure where your task is to remove ovaries through the vaginal canal. While I do not condone anyone thinking general anesthesia gives implied consent for carte blanche medical examination or that anyone should do anything without someone’s consent, there is an important distinction that’s being missed here. This isn’t about going in for an appendectomy and getting a pelvic exam (the picture above with the speculum is not a pelvic exam, BTW), but rather more like having a testicular exam during a vasectomy, or getting a prostate exam before the prostatectomy.
 
jope said:
Rather than someone "seeing you naked", it's really more akin to someone sticking a speculum up your butt, spreading it open, taking scrapings from the linings of your tissues, feeling up in there with fingers for lumps and abnormalities, and more. Much more invasive than "seeing you naked". I mean if you still dgaf about that, thats cool. I just wouldn't want to find out that had happened to my wife without her knowing.


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Good point.

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MVP said:
To help train proctologists?
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If I'm unconscious and can't feel anything or remember anything then hell yes. You want to pay me 200 dollars to take a nap? I'm in

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Bulletproof said:
So a woman goes into surgery for some random thing. Once she's unconscious from anesthesia they bring in a medical student and start poking around in her genitals. All without her knowing anyone was going to be anywhere near her genitals.

I mean, this is an easy one. Get consent first. There is no excuse for doing this without consent.
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Lots of rights violated here, for sure. I have heard (reliably, of course) about women being sterilized when under anesthesia in other countries, without ever even being told about it. And that was over 40 years ago. "For the Cause", some say.

But this is rank perversion. America is still the best place on earth in regard to human rights....

wait...…. did I just agree with Bullet???????????? damn. Some things you just have to believe in.
 
MVP said:
I think you are just pretending that you ok with not feeling anything....
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No I'm not pretending.
I would be getting paid to take a drug induced nap. I'm not pretending to be good with that.

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Alfalfa said:
They put you into a coma. You can't feel people cutting you into pieces. It's not a nap...

I can't believe what I'm reading.

/facepalm
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Hey mang ... I know a ton of people that'd pay way more than $200 to not feel anything for a night
 
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