I said i wasn't mocking you. Im sorry for saying I wasn't mocking you. What would you like for me to do? Maybe tell me how to respond to your next post in like a "ps" or something and I will do it.
100% correct. Good advice bro@fishonjazz and @MT Steve
Please dudes, let it end. You both are now in a loop of unconstructive debate with each other leading to nothing good.
+/- and free throw stats are what they are and their usefulness depends a lot of context they are talked against. +/- stat's (for individual player) usefulness is highly correlated with the size of the sample set. One game is never enough, to ten, but over longer periods of time it is clear that good players tend to have better +/- stat than worse players. There is absolutely no magic here. Inaccurate AF for high resolution evaluation, yes! Meanigless, no!
Amount of free throws in a game could be useful evaluation tool for reffing if we also use big samples that take account who was reffing, who were on the court, what was box score in that situation etc.
But you guys know that already. Probably better than I do.
You're a good dude. Im sorry too. Get some sleep its ****ing late! (im at work so not possible for me)
Shut up, I just barely got my popcorn.@fishonjazz and @MT Steve
Please dudes, let it end. You both are now in a loop of unconstructive debate with each other leading to nothing good.
+/- and free throw stats are what they are and their usefulness depends a lot of context they are talked against. +/- stat's (for individual player) usefulness is highly correlated with the size of the sample set. One game is never enough, neither ten, but over longer periods of time it is clear that good players tend to have better +/- stat than worse players. There is absolutely no magic here. Inaccurate AF for high resolution evaluation, yes! Meaningless, no!
Amount of free throws in a game could be useful evaluation tool for reffing if we also use big samples that take account who was reffing, who were on the court, what was box score in that situation etc.
But you guys know that already. Probably better than I do.
This. Really he was not involved much at all, all things considered. That last play should have been an inbound pass and a pick and pop for Lauri as the drawn up play. Still, not a bad outing, we stayed competitive and put some fear into the Mavs. They were celebrating like they just won a playoff game, when all they did was beat a ragtag group of rebels who aren't supposed to accomplish anything this season. If that isn't a moral victory I do not know what is.
Lauri disappeared last night. Good player but this is a game where you can tell the Jazz still need a #1 franchise guy.
Yeah... he also is much better on defense. Maybe Quin shouldn't have just told him to shoot everything everytime... there was a more complete basketball player in there.
Lauri might be that guy but he will have to take another leap forward, I think a lot of it is in his confidence to just BE that guy in those moments instead of deferring. It will help if Hardy helps him see that and draws up plays so he can be comfortable taking the reigns. But no matter what he is just about the perfect #2 option for a winning team. Either way a keeper and maybe a franchise cornerstone. Not bad compensation in the trade.
