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Game Thread Nov 14, 2024 07:00PM MT: Dallas Mavericks @ Utah Jazz

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Keyonte usage toned down. Cody minutes toned down. Brice doesnt even get on the court.

I get a sense Hardy ain't playin along here guys.
 
HermanG said:
Only "problem" I see on Lauri's play is that it seems opponents have got the memo and coaches tell everyone to "just put your hand on the ball" when he drives. He just hasnt figured out how to work around that.
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He had all the summer to train. It isn't a new way to take out his drives, they all just now remember to do it. Lower the stance, tighten the grip, use more your shoulder, learn some fakes or spin moves to be more of a force. Not all of them are necessary but learn something to the price tag of his contract would expect for him. Or even polish the mid range shot. Now let's look at Collins who is playing for his mind out there. He comes into this season improved and more poised than ever. I don't say Lauri is bad or anything, but you'd expect more of him as someone whose goal is to be the best Finnish athlete ever.

Things will get easier when he's not the #1 option, but wherever he's going to play post season in the future, their #1 might be out for injuries, so it's kinda good if you're almost maxed out all star could do better on-ball stuff as the first option, even if temporarily. I'm not expecting it become his bread and butter but he needs to improve.
 
Step-Back Lauri said:
He had all the summer to train. It isn't a new way to take out his drives, they all just now remember to do it. Lower the stance, tighten the grip, use more your shoulder, learn some fakes or spin moves to be more of a force. Not all of them are necessary but learn something to the price tag of his contract would expect for him. Or even polish the mid range shot. Now let's look at Collins who is playing for his mind out there. He comes into this season improved and more poised than ever. I don't say Lauri is bad or anything, but you'd expect more of him as someone whose goal is to be the best Finnish athlete ever.

Things will get easier when he's not the #1 option, but wherever he's going to play post season in the future, their #1 might be out for injuries, so it's kinda good if you're almost maxed out all star could do better on-ball stuff as the first option, even if temporarily. I'm not expecting it become his bread and butter but he needs to improve.
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I think the drive issue is the only issue I see which he absolutely needs to fix. Everything else thats not going right is either about him trying to do new things or relates more to how the team around him plays.

I went to check his corner 3s and the attempts are down a lot from past 2 years. He has just 5 corner 3 attempts in 8 games this season, whereas he had 186 total last two seasons which amounted to almost exactly 1.5 per game. So he should have 12 by now with that pace, which probably is still too few. When the opponents guard him tight there and he cuts and is getting some lobs his way... but when the opponent leaves him with space he just doesnt get the ball. Our guards just arent good at reading kickouts to the corner. Thats one of the NBA money shots these days, and should be one of your top options if you have a good shooter patrolling there.
 
if im lauri ill work on pull up midrange jumpshot instead of running straight to the rim. Like those momentum changing shots by sexton. Its going to save his body later on
 
First half was about as perfect as it could go. Flip had everything go right, Keyonte looked good, Cody had a few good plays. The young guys were leading the way and we were down 3. The second half is exactly what we don't want to see, the JCs leading us to wins.

It's hard to be mad when the Jazz win, but these are the types of wins we want to avoid. Hopefully it increases the JCs trade values.
 
Agent#00 said:
if im lauri ill work on pull up midrange jumpshot instead of running straight to the rim. Like those momentum changing shots by sexton. Its going to save his body later on
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If you have no driving threat with the ball in your hands, your 3P and midrange shots will get pressured much more. Its more important he finds ways to drive. That opens up the midrange game completely, as anyone will give you a middy rather than a dunk/layup.
 
We killed them on the boards - looked great on the offensive boards, This team isn't good but it's fascinating to watch how hard they play.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
First half was about as perfect as it could go. Flip had everything go right, Keyonte looked good, Cody had a few good plays. The young guys were leading the way and we were down 3. The second half is exactly what we don't want to see, the JCs leading us to wins.

It's hard to be mad when the Jazz win, but these are the types of wins we want to avoid. Hopefully it increases the JCs trade values.
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I can see serious contusions in both JC's future if they continue playing like that.
 
I really enjoyed last nights win. I understand why people may be upset, but my enjoyment of the Jazz goes far beyond some distant hope of future tanking dreams. Not everything has to be about the big picture. Gotta love seeing the players make progress in their development and enjoy the wins when they come.
 
KqWIN said:
I really enjoyed last nights win. I understand why people may be upset, but my enjoyment of the Jazz goes far beyond some distant hope of future tanking dreams. Not everything has to be about the big picture. Gotta love seeing the players make progress in their development and enjoy the wins when they come.
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The enjoyment is amplified by 1000 when it's beating a team with that epic whiner Doncic on it.

Seriously, I hope he never wins anything. The fact he's made it to a Finals means he's won too much.
 
Tanktastic said:
Were you actually even watching the game and see the replays? Dude almost ripped Lauri's eyelid off his face.
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I watched. I saw him get hit in the face. I thought he could still play. I could be wrong. I saw cy saying its a nose injury. Seems like something that could be played through but I doubt we are worried too much about winning as much as possible this season. I saw you say that he was saying his vision was blurry. Probably a good reason to hold him out...... For a few months ;)
 
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